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50 years of the Ombudsman in New Zealand

Presentation by Dr the Right Honourable Lockwood Smith, Speaker of the House of Representatives, at a Reception in the Grand Hall, Parliament

2 October 2012

As Winston Churchill reminded us in 1947, “indeed it has been said that democracy is a form of government which may be rationally defended not as being good, but as being less bad than any other”. Governance is inevitably fraught with compromise, and its best exercise requires sufficient checks on its operation, so that it can be seen as fair and just when interacting with those affected by it.

The establishment of the Office of the Ombudsman in 1962 to provide such checks was a major constitutional innovation. New Zealand was the first English speaking country outside of Scandinavia to adopt the Ombudsman concept and this 50th anniversary offers an opportunity to reflect on how it has helped foster fairness and justice in the government’s dealings with its people.

The legislation which underpins the New Zealand Ombudsmen’s Office remains a model to which others aspire. Its success is widely recognised, and that success is evidenced in part by its rapid adoption throughout Australia, Britain, Canada and the Pacific.

The New Zealand ombudsmen are supported by their genuine independence: There is independence in the structure and functioning of the office and independence in its financing. That independence is confirmed by the office being an office of parliament, not an organ of executive government.

The fact that an Ombudsman can gain access to the inner workings of the government system and independently assess what has happened and why, has helped the public sector focus upon the manner in which it interacts with the people it’s designed to serve. The Office provides a vital ‘check’ within our democratic system.

And it’s not just whether government actions have been appropriate or not, the Ombudsman methodology is distinctive in that it seeks a conciliatory resolution of issues, in contrast to the legal system’s rather more adversarial edge.

Arguably, one of the keys to the office’s success has been the careful and thoughtful manner in which it has been developed since 1962.

What then is a modern ombudsman?

When the office was first established in 1962, the Ombudsman’s jurisdiction was limited to investigating complaints about central government departments and organisations.

In 1968, the Ombudsman’s jurisdiction was extended to include education and hospital boards.

And then in 1975, the legislation was consolidated in the Ombudsmen Act 1975.  The appointment of additional Ombudsmen was permitted, and the Ombudsman’s jurisdiction was extended to include local government agencies.

In July 1983, the Official Information Act 1982 came into force.  Under this Act, the Ombudsman was empowered to investigate and review complaints about decisions by Ministers and central government agencies on requests for information.

Then in March 1988, the Local Government Official Information and Meetings Act 1987 added complaints about decisions by local government agencies withholding information.

In January 2001, the Protected Disclosures Act 2000 came into force.  This, commonly known as the “whistle-blower” legislation, made the Ombudsman responsible for providing advice and guidance to any employee, in the public or private sector, who was considering making a disclosure about serious wrongdoing in their workplace. The Ombudsman is in fact one of the “appropriate authorities” listed in the Act to whom a protected disclosure can be made.

Four years later, in January 2005, the Crown Entities Act 2004 finally brought all crown entities within the Ombudsman's jurisdiction.

As if that wasn’t enough, in June 2007, the Ombudsman was designated a National Preventive Mechanism (NPM) under the Crimes of Torture Act 1989 (COTA).  That Act gave effect to New Zealand’s obligations under Optional Protocol to the Convention against Torture and other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (“OPCAT”), making the Ombudsman responsible for visiting prisons, immigration detention facilities, health and disability places of detention, child care and protection residences, and youth justice residences, to ensure those nasty things didn’t happen here. The Ombudsman in fact monitors and makes recommendations to improve the conditions of detention and the treatment of detainees.

Finally, in October 2010, the Ombudsman, along with the Human Rights Commission, and the New Zealand Convention Coalition, took on the independent role of protecting and monitoring implementation of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.

One could say that over 50 years the role of the Office has expanded somewhat.

The New Zealand Ombudsman’s office has, however, not been immune from the need to deal with complaints more effectively and efficiently. In the 2011/2012 year 10,636 complaints and other contacts were received, up 22% on the previous year. Cases on hand at any time have grown from an average of 800 to over 1700.

New work flow structures allow the office to cope better with the unprecedented level of complaints and strategically the Office is putting more focus on encouraging better administrative practices in the state sector.

Despite Dame Beverley advising my office this afternoon, when we enquired after complaints of a lighter nature, that “it’s no fun palace over here you know”, they do get the odd, shall we say interesting complaint.

One such example was the inmate of a North Island prison who lodged a bitter complaint with the Ombudsmen’s Office when his Case Officer had refused to provide him with the prison building plans and the Prison Wardens’ Duty Roster for the next month.

But I think that was well topped by one of the first complaints Dame Beverley had to deal with when she first became an Ombudsman. It seems a bloke complained to the Ombudsman that his being failed a flying course was unjust. He had taken his hands off the controls of a light aircraft at 800ft in order to better argue with his instructor.

Our new Ombudsman, Dame Beverley, thought “I’ll get him in and explain carefully why I cannot uphold his complaint”.

Ten minutes into her carefully rehearsed speech, the complainant, a big man, upended the large glass topped table in her face and threw his papers after it. Dame Beverley, even if somewhat unsuccessful in convincing the complainant of the lack of merit in his case that day, is nothing if not astute in her employment strategy. The high level of karate skills that Deputy Ombudsman Leo Donnelly brings to his position, while fortunately not frequently needed, proved invaluable that day.

We are currently served by two outstanding Ombudsmen, Dame Beverley Wakem and David McGee.  They are supported by the Deputy Ombudsman, Leo Donnelly, a General Counsel, John Pohl and General Manager - Corporate, Peter Brocklehurst, as well as a team of 65 staff in Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch.

Dame Beverley is also the President of the International Ombudsman Institute, established in 1978, the global organisation for the cooperation of more than 150 ombudsman institutions. All in all the Office can be justifiably proud of its first 50 years and I wish it every success for the next 50.

Commonwealth Speakers and Presiding Officers Conference

Legislative Accountability: Getting the balance right -the availability of House time for the Government’s legislative programme

Trinidad and Tobago

Monday 9th January, 2012

The limited time available for the House to conduct its business places pressure on the Government’s legislative programme. While this tension can provide a safeguard against unfettered legislative activity, governments in New Zealand over many years have sought to supplement the House’s regular sitting hours by taking urgency [1]   to progress their legislative programmes, rather than solely for the passage of particular bills that genuinely need to be fast tracked.

The use of urgency has attracted considerable negative publicity, particularly where it allows select committee consideration to be by-passed. Its impact is potentially to suspend other House business, including question time and members’ business, remove stand down periods between the various stages of the legislative process, and to remove select committee consideration. In examining the concerns raised, the Standing Orders Committee in its review of the Standing Orders in the 49th Parliament had regard to the open and transparent operation of the House and good quality legislative scrutiny – in other words legislative accountability.

It sought to find ways to make government decisions on the legislative process more open and accessible, and for the House’s procedures to work in a way that reflected well on the institution of Parliament – for the House to be following a well established and deliberate set of rules in its law making, breaking from these only in exceptional circumstances.

This paper addresses the package of reforms the Standing Orders Committee recommended in it review of the Standing Orders, the balance necessary to achieve endorsement by the House, and the impact on the role of the Speaker.

Reviews of Standing Orders

The Standing Orders Committee reviews the Standing Orders during each Parliament. [2]   These reviews help ensure the ongoing relevancy of Parliament. They allow the House’s procedures to be adjusted to ensure:

  • quality law making
  • parliamentary scrutiny that enhances government outcomes
  • proper opportunity for members to represent their constituencies, both regional and sectoral, and that these interests are balanced with the public interest
  • the Government can advance its programme, and maintain the confidence of the House.

Revised Standing Orders were developed during a review conducted by the Standing Orders Committee in 2011. The Speaker chairs the Committee and presents the Committee’s report to the House. [3]   The revised Standing Orders, recommended by the Committee, were adopted by the House with effect from 21 October 2011, ready for the opening of the 50th Parliament following the general election on 26 November 2011.

Standing Orders – principles of good law making

The Standing Orders are akin to constitutional rules. They reflect the exclusive right of the House to control its own proceedings. The House’s privileges are part of the general law. [4]   The Standing Orders are the House’s own code of practice, which sets out the procedures to be followed. As constitutional rules they have to balance the Government’s need to progress its policy with effective scrutiny of legislative and budget proposals. The Standing Orders establish hurdles over which government proposals must pass:

  • Debates to agree the first, second, and third readings of bills
  • Time delays for progressing from one stage to the next to allow proper consideration by members
  • Opportunities for public participation through submissions to select committees
  • A select committee stage and an unlimited committee of the whole House stage where members may propose amendments.

The Standing Orders also set limits so as to ensure progress can be made:

  • First, second and third reading debates have limited numbers of speeches (12) and limits on speaking times (10 minutes)
  • Closures may be moved in the committee of the whole House
  • Amendments that have more than a minor impact on the Government’s fiscal aggregates may be vetoed by a Minister.

In so doing, the Standing Orders balance the Government’s need to progress its legislation against effective scrutiny by Opposition parties. The rights of the Opposition are protected, without making it impossible for the Government to progress its legislative proposals.

The Standing Orders Committee takes this balance into account when reviewing Standing Orders. It does not tinker with the rules. Every change has implications that have to be weighed up carefully. The Committee seeks to come up with a package that will have overwhelming support. It has been criticised for this approach because it is seen as inherently conservative. However, the Committee remains firmly of the view that constitutional rules should not be changed lightly. To get the necessary support for a package of changes there has to be give and take. The Government may not always fully support all changes, but can see merit from an Opposition perspective. It is recognised that there will always be something of a conflict for governments in an effective Parliament.

Public submissions on Standing Orders

The Standing Orders Committee called for submissions from members and the public on its review of the Standing Orders. [5]   From the evidence the committee received two major themes emerged:

  • Government’s need for more House time to advance its policy platform with less frequent resort to urgency
  • Need to improve the quality of legislative scrutiny, with time for informed and open policy consideration and the observance of fundamental rights and freedoms.

Submitters drew particular attention to the use of urgency by successive governments to supplement the amount of House time available for them to implement their policies. They considered the use of urgency to meet the shortfall in sitting hours to be undesirable.

Standing Orders Committee approach

The Standing Orders Committee’s approach to addressing these themes was to:

  • Examine ways to use the existing sitting pattern more effectively, while providing opportunities for members to debate matters that are important to them
  • Provide incentives for negotiating the management of House business through the Business Committee. [6]  

The Committee produced a package of reforms that provide extra sitting time for government business, with the aim of using urgency only where legislation actually needs to be fast-tracked, and encourage more effective management of the business of the House through negotiation in the Business Committee. It balanced these with proposals that require instructions to reduce the time for the consideration of bills in select committees to be debated in the House, provide a focus on debating matters of importance to members in the committee of the whole House, along with recommendations to the Government aimed at enhancing scrutiny of legislative proposals before bills are introduced.

In recommending extended sitting hours within the normal House sitting pattern, rather than simply additional hours, the Standing Orders Committee sought to balance all the roles of members. As well as their roles as legislators and scrutinisers of government activity, members face demands as Ministers, party members, and representatives of their constituents and sectoral interest groups. These latter responsibilities, while not as fundamental, all require the time of members, time away from the capital, Wellington.

The Standing Orders Committee also had regard for long standing criticism of the New Zealand Parliament for legislating too much. A previous Prime Minister and academic, Rt Hon Sir Geoffrey Palmer, famously described it in 1979 as the “fastest lawmaker in the west”. [7]   Governments have frequently sought to use legislation to demonstrate they are responding to public concerns, where legislation in terms of additional powers or protections for citizens is not strictly required. To this end, the Standing Orders Committee’s recommendations sought to ensure that all legislative proposals are properly scrutinised for compliance with Cabinet guidelines [8]   and, in particular, with New Zealand’s fundamental rights and freedoms, as expressed in the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, before they come before the House, and that this scrutiny is made available to the House.

The proposals to provide extra time for government business and to encourage the Government to achieve more open and transparent management of its House business through the Business Committee are discussed further below. This is followed by examination of the Standing Orders Committee’s balancing proposals aimed at enhancing legislative scrutiny and outcomes.

Extended sittings

The Standing Orders Committee’s recommendation for extended sittings [9]   enables the House to sit on Wednesday and Thursday mornings to advance government business on the Order Paper, provided the Government has given the Business Committee notice in the week before. This is not urgency by another name. Only the stage notified on the Order Paper may be taken during a sitting extended in this way. Urgency is still available to the Government to progress urgent business. However, a Minister moving urgency must now inform the House with some particularity of the circumstances that warrant the claim for urgency. [10]  

This requirement should provide greater transparency about the need to fast track particular bills. At the same time there is an incentive to manage non-urgent government business stage by stage through extended sittings, the Government having given notice to the Business Committee in the week prior, making the timing apparent to members and the public well in advance.

Incentives for negotiation in Business Committee

The Business Committee is a formal forum for considering the management of House business. Notice may be required for proposals and both notice and the Business Committee’s determination published, making the process a great deal more open and transparent than the inter-party negotiations behind closed doors that have characterised the management of the Government’s business in the past. [11]   Where the Government proposes to set aside the House’s rules, if it cannot persuade the Business Committee of the merits of its arguments for so doing, it may now have to debate them in the House, enhancing accountability.

The Standing Orders Committee in its recommendations set out to promote constructive engagement through the Business Committee, where all parties are represented. While the Government’s ability to order its business remains largely intact, there are greater incentives for the Government to go to the Business Committee and negotiate the passage of its bills.

The Business Committee now has greater powers to determine extra sitting hours for government business, and also to take a greater role in determining the length, nature and timing of debates in the House, in particular in the committee of the whole House. It can determine that the House sit on a Thursday evening and Friday morning and may also allow more than one stage to be taken during an extended sitting. It may determine bills with related subject matter to be cognate, [12]   thus potentially allowing debates at their first, second and third readings to be taken together. It can give select committees the power to meet during the sittings of the House and set the reporting dates for business referred to them from the House.

However, the Government cannot railroad its proposals through the Business Committee. It must build the support of other parties, for there are certain safeguards built into the Business Committee’s operations. It is chaired by the Speaker, and makes its decision not by majority but by unanimity or near unanimity as determined by the Speaker. To make Business Committee determinations more transparent, they must now be published on the Parliament website once confirmed. [13]   Formal notice to the Business Committee from the Government of extended sittings and committee stages will also be published in this way.

Incentives for better legislative outcomes

The committee of the whole House stage is currently the only unlimited stage of a bill’s passage through the House. Each part of a bill is considered in sequence and members may table amendments for consideration. In order to reduce the number of debateable questions, Ministers frequently instructed Parliamentary Counsel to draft bills in as few parts as possible, the consequence of which was often large two part bills, rather than a logical grouping and arrangement of the legislative provisions.

Now with the Business Committee able to shape the committee of the whole House debate, it is envisaged that Ministers might approach the Business Committee at an early stage, even before a bill is introduced, to get agreement around the debateable questions. Debate might be focused on the major issues, rather than the parts of the bill. It could be shaped to ensure the issues are debated, rather than machinery provisions, and allows for the putting forward of alternative propositions. This way a Minister has some certainty and bills can be drafted to promote the accessibility of the law, rather than so as to minimise debate.

Protecting effective select committee scrutiny

Select committee consideration is critical to the proper scrutiny of legislation. In a unicameral Parliament, such as New Zealand’s, it plays an especially important role providing the opportunity for in depth scrutiny of legislative proposals. It allows the public to participate and influence the legislative process. Participants need time to consider and prepare their submissions. The Standing Orders provide as a standard that select committees have six months to consider and make their reports on bills. [14]   To this end the Standing Orders Committee recommended changes aimed at ensuring committees have adequate meeting time during this period and governments are discouraged from restricting the time available to them to consider legislation.

Instructions to select committees reducing the time for the consideration of bills to four months or less or seeking to give a select committee additional powers to meet at times not otherwise available to it are now debateable. The Government must be open and transparent in its proposals for the consideration of its legislation and weigh up the use of precious House time to debate instructions. Select committees may not meet during extended sittings of the House on Wednesday or Thursday mornings, unless the Business Committee determines accordingly. Here the Government must offset progress in the House against progress in select committees, unless it has been able to negotiate a compromise in the Business Committee.

Bill of Rights scrutiny

Many submissions to the Standing Orders Committee review raised the need to ensure fundamental rights and constitutional principles are given proper consideration in the legislative process. While the Attorney-General is required by law [15]   to report to the House on any inconsistencies with the rights and freedoms contained in the New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990 in bills on introduction, submitters took the view that the Government should be required to account for inconsistencies at any stage of a bill’s passage. The Committee made recommendations aimed at improving scrutiny both prior to the introduction of a bill and at select committee.

It recommended to the Government that the Regulatory Impact Statement, [16]   which accompanies a bill’s introduction, give more prominence to Bill of Rights and other constitutional issues and that Cabinet guidelines require Bill of Rights reporting on substantive amendments proposed at the committee of the whole House stage of a bill. It recommended also that select committees receive briefings on these reports from government officials and that select committees also invite public submissions on these issues.

Scrutiny of substantive amendments at committee of whole House stage

Substantive amendments at the committee of the whole House stage are another serious impediment to good legislative scrutiny. They can be introduced as late as the day of the committee stage and will not have had the benefit of select committee consideration. Here the Standing Orders Committee drew attention to the power of the Business Committee to determine that a select committee consider such an amendment where a bill has already been reported to the House by the select committee. [17]   Rather than having to use time on the floor of the House moving an instruction, Ministers are encouraged to go to the Business Committee and negotiate consideration of amendments by a select committee, as a potential trade off against time in the committee of the whole House.

Arrangement of committee of whole House

The committee of the whole House stage now allows a broader debate. Debate is focused on the major provisions (each part) rather than the detail of individual clauses. It allows members who have not spoken in the limited first or second reading debates to participate and for alternative propositions to be raised in a public forum. It is the point where the House’s full proportionality is brought to bear on the text of the bill.

In its review, the Standing Orders Committee sought to promote constructive negotiations in the Business Committee about the arrangement of the debate in the committee of the whole House. It also agreed changes aimed at giving greater notice of committee stages so as to encourage earlier circulation of proposed amendments. Where practicable the Government must advise the Business Committee of the committee stages of bills to be taken in the next week. [18]   A schedule of proposed amendments will be published to help inform members for the debate. The Chairpersons of Committees will have the power to group amendments that form alternative propositions and select amendments where there are similar amendments at the same place in a bill. The aim being to maximise debate on issues of significance to members, rather than spending time discussing and voting on every individual amendment proposed.

Conclusions

The package of reforms recommended to the House by the Standing Orders Committee in its recent review included other changes, many of a more technical nature. The changes to provide extra time for government business and mechanisms to encourage more open and transparent management of the House’s business, balanced against protections for select committee scrutiny are the most significant changes made to the Standing Orders since the adoption of new Standing Orders to accommodate the move to a proportional electoral system [19]   in 1996. There has, however, been criticism that these changes are too timid.

Critics consider that by not recommending specific limits on aspects of the use of urgency, the Standing Orders Committee has not done enough to change the long standing use of urgency by governments simply to progress their business. [20]   They believe the use of urgency will continue to be viewed by the public, regardless of whether it is justified or not, as the Government ramming legislation through Parliament without regard to the House’s own rules. A wide-ranging review of parliamentary time was put forward to the Standing Orders Committee as the way of addressing what critics saw as the comparatively low number of House sitting days that require significant augmentation through the use of urgency.

Submitters to the Standing Orders Committee also recommended that the Speaker be given the role of approving urgency where its use would by-pass select committee consideration, in much the same manner as the Speaker approves the use of extraordinary urgency. [21]   The Committee did not agree. It considered the decision to by-pass select committee consideration a political one that would unnecessarily draw the Speaker into the politics. Its preference was to make changes that provide incentives to use extended sitting hours rather than urgency, and penalise the Government in terms of taking time in the House to debate instructions to select committees that significantly shorten the time available to them to consider bills.

Concerns over lack of legislative capacity have existed over a number of years. Submitters to the Standing Orders Committee drew particular attention to the consequences for technical, non-controversial legislation to remedy existing problems or otherwise maintain and enhance the legislative infrastructure. Not surprisingly governments give priority to major policy reforms in their legislative programmes and as a result non-controversial legislation is often not progressed. The Committee took the view that now there is a very good chance that negotiations in the Business Committee will result in this type of legislation progressing through the use of extended sittings.

The remedies put forward to the Committee were to increase the regular sitting hours of the House and to provide for the committee of the whole House stage to be taken off the floor of the House and for it to sit concurrently with the House. Standing Orders Committees have addressed such proposals before.

Balancing the pressure on members’ time is an important consideration. This Standing Orders Committee preferred to see extensions to the current sitting pattern and better management of House business rather than more regular sitting days. Two extended sittings over Thursday evenings and Friday mornings will equate to a whole extra sitting week in terms of hours for the Government. The Committee considered a Main Committee, akin to that in place in the Australian House of Representatives, an expensive option in the current fiscal climate and acknowledged the difficulties it would place on small parties in terms of presence in the House and the committee. A real difficulty in the 50th Parliament where there are four parties with fewer than six members.

Time will tell whether this carefully balanced approach is successful in achieving more openness and transparency in the legislative process and greater government accountability where it is proposed that the House’s legislative procedures be set aside and bills fast tracked. Much will depend on the way in which the Business Committee works in the new Parliament to manage the business of the House. The Speaker as the chair of the Committee has a large part to play in this. The Chairperson must create an environment in the Business Committee where the Government feels confident to bring forward proposals for the management of its business. In determining such proposals, it is the Chairperson who has the challenge of judging whether, on the basis of party membership in the House, a sufficient degree of support has been reached for the Chair, to be satisfied of the fairness of a proposal to all parties. [22]   In so doing the Speaker has a growing role in ensuring an open and transparent legislative process, a role that must achieve a balance between effective Opposition scrutiny of legislative proposals and reasonable progress for the Government’s legislative programme.

  1. Urgency is a procedure available to the Government, (see Standing Orders 55 and 56) whereby it can, on motion without notice, extend a sitting for the purpose of advancing Government business. There are virtually no limits on the business. It may include the introduction and passing of bills, or the passing through the remaining stages of bills. The House sits from 9.00am until midnight each sitting day until the business is concluded or 12 midnight on Saturday is reached. A bill introduced and taken through all stages under urgency does not go to a select committee for consideration.   [back]
  2. Standing Order 7   [back]
  3. Review of Standing Orders, Report of the Standing Orders Committee, September 2011, I.18B, presented 27 September 2011, http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/Documents/Reports/4/a/8/49DBSCH_SCR5302_1-Review-of-the-Standing-Orders-I-18B.htm   [back]
  4. Section 242 of the Legislature Act 1908   [back]
  5. The submissions received by the Standing Orders Committee on its review are available on the New Zealand Parliament website at http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/Documents/Evidence/   [back]
  6. The Business Committee is chaired by the Speaker and has membership from every party in the House. It makes its decisions on the basis of unanimity or near unanimity, determined by the Speaker. Standing Oder 77 sets out the Business Committee’s main functions.   [back]
  7. Geoffrey Palmer Unbridled Power: An Interpretation of New Zealand’s Constitution and Government Oxford University Press, Wellington 1979, p. 70   [back]
  8. Cabinet Manual 2008, Cabinet Office, Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, paragraphs 7.60 – 7.62, http://www.cabinetmanual.cabinetoffice.govt.nz/   [back]
  9. Standing Order 54   [back]
  10. Standing Order 55(3)   [back]
  11. Since the introduction of MMP, minority Governments have been the norm in New Zealand, governing with the support of smaller parties. These smaller parties have on occasions exercised a degree of restraint on the use of urgency, withdrawing or negotiating their support for government urgency motions. However, this restraint has been patchy and commentators do not consider it an effective accountability mechanism.   [back]
  12. Standing Order 266   [back]
  13. See http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/PB/SC/Details/Business/f/8/2/00SCBU_Determinations20111221_1-Determinations-of-the-Business-Committee.htm   [back]
  14. Standing Order 291   [back]
  15. New Zealand Bill of Rights Act 1990, s. 7 and Standing Order 262   [back]
  16. Cabinet Manual 2008, Cabinet Office, Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet, paragraph 7.32, http://www.cabinetmanual.cabinetoffice.govt.nz/   [back]
  17. Standing Order 186(3)   [back]
  18. Standing Order 297(3)   [back]
  19. Mixed Member Proportional System (MMP)   [back]
  20. Urgency was first provided for in the Standing Orders in 1903 and has been a feature of parliamentary procedure since that time.   [back]
  21. Standing Order 57 requires the Speaker to agree that the business justifies the taking of extraordinary urgency, which allows the House to continue to sit beyond midnight.   [back]
  22. Standing Order 76   [back]

Launch of the AtoJsOnline

Grand Hall at Parliament House

5pm to 6.30pm

For the first time a substantial block of the historic Appendices to the Journals of the House of Representatives (A to Js) published by Parliament, is being made available in digital form, through the internet. It is “A to Js Online”.

We are here to launch the digitisation of 24 volumes covering the 1860s and 1870s – a small but vital part of the entire set of volumes. These pilot volumes include 1604 reports, and 158 foldouts comprising maps, plans and tables.

They are searchable, are available in both text and facsimile versions and include all material within the volumes including foldouts.

Since its earliest days, publication of the A to Js has always been an essential part of Parliament’s record-keeping. It is part of the accountability of government departments and other statutory bodies to Parliament. These reports and papers are tabled in the House, Parliament orders that they be printed, and they are bound into the volumes we know collectively as the ‘A to Js’.

Now some of these weighty volumes – accumulated for more than 150 years – will reveal hidden treasures previously not accessible to many New Zealanders. They are an impressive resource.

These are hidden treasures indeed. One researcher at the Bodleian Library in Oxford, when ordering the New Zealand A to Js from the stacks, found that they had to be retrieved from an underground salt mine in Cheshire! He got them 48 hours later. Apparently a salt mine has an ideal dry and constant temperature environment. Not everyone has to go to the lengths of this particular researcher in getting access to the hard-copy A to Js, but the difficulties of access cannot be denied.

The A to Js of the 1860s and 1870s cover a crucial period in our history – the land wars and the confiscation of land, the discovery of gold and influx of a great many migrants, Vogel’s public works and immigration programme involving a mass government-assisted immigration scheme and the building of railways and roads, and the abolition of the provinces and strengthening of central government.

As a by-product of this turbulent period of our history, the A to Js contain a myriad of information about the people of that time – lists of civil servants, sheep owners, land purchasers, Maori landowners and petitioners, and many more, as the activities of government intersected with people’s everyday lives.

The digitised A to Js will be made available in a similar format to the popular ‘Papers Past’, the National Library’s digitised historical newspaper collection. Those of you who have used Papers Past will know just how much research opportunities are opened up. I would bet that if you took a look you would not leave the Papers Past website for hours – such is the fascination once you start browsing!

We have only just begun to lift the curtain on the hidden treasures in the A to Js. We now need to digitise the whole period 1854 to 1999 when the modern-day Parliamentary Papers begin.

It is hoped that this pilot website will provide a launching pad through which further digitisation of the A to Js can be achieved with the support of other stakeholders, and to date, some have indicated their financial support to enable this to happen.

The first 24 volumes will eventually become an estimated 600 volumes, though the speed at which that happens will depend on available funding.

In a recent on-line poll, conducted by Digital New Zealand on candidates for digitisation, the A to Js were voted one of the top information source priorities.

Responses described the A to Js as providing open access to the treasures of the past and I am sure we will see a surge in scholarly interest by anyone studying New Zealand history. There is a desire to keep the momentum going.

For making this start on digitising the A to Js I wish to acknowledge the work and funding of the National Library and Digital New Zealand; the assistance of the Hocken Library which provided the volumes; and the Parliamentary Library staff who checked those volumes for completeness.

Other organisations also to be thanked include the Office of the Clerk, the Council of NZ University Librarians, the NZ Law Librarians Association, the Association of Public Library Managers and Te Puni Kōkiri.

I now officially launch ‘A to Js Online’. There is no button to press or champagne bottle to break over the ship, but I invite you all to press some buttons on the keyboards across the room. Take a look at what is on offer, and consider how magnificent this resource will be when all the A to Js are digitised.

The role of the Speaker: New Zealand Centre for Public Law public lecture

Rutherford House Lecture Theatre, Wellington

1230pm, Tuesday 11 May 2010

The role of the Speaker is inextricably entwined with the evolution of parliamentary democracy, which was so hard fought for over so many centuries in England.

King John didn’t affix his seal to the Magna Carta at Runnymede in 1215 because he had some great vision of democracy. He desperately needed extra taxes for his failed military campaigns and the Barons had had enough. They weren’t going to pay any more without something in return.

Likewise, when Edward I summoned the ‘Model Parliament’ eighty years later, in 1295, he needed more taxes to fund his campaigns against the Scots, including William Wallace.

It was under Edward III that the Commons met separately for the first time and in 1376 the ‘Good Parliament’ elected the first Speaker, Sir Peter de la Mare. I must say he didn’t last that long - John of Gaunt had him arrested just a year later.

In those early years the Speaker chaired the House of Commons and spoke to a monarch on behalf of the Parliament. Sir Thomas More made the first known request for the right of freedom of speech in Parliament in 1523. He sought it from Henry VIII.

It is something I still do formally today. The first act of a newly elected speaker in New Zealand is to seek from the Governor-General confirmation of the appointment and, on behalf of the Members, lay claim to all the privileges of the House, especially to freedom of speech in debate.

In the 1600’s Charles I tried to bypass Parliament and levy forced loans without parliamentary approval. So desperate for money did he become that in 1640 he summoned the Long Parliament.

Frustrated at not getting his way, he forced his way into the Commons in 1642 to arrest five senior Members.

History has it that Speaker William Lenthal sent Charles I packing with the words:

“May it please your Majesty, I have neither eyes to see nor tongue to speak in this place, but as this House is pleased to direct me, whose servant I am here”.

The English Civil War followed five months later and Charles I was eventually to lose his head. Since that time, no monarch has entered the U.K. Commons or our Debating Chamber here in New Zealand.

In that courageous action, Speaker William Lenthal established the Speaker as Parliament’s man and set the standard for future speakers in protecting the rights and privileges of Parliament.

Of course the monarchy was restored in 1660 with Charles II followed by James II, but religious tensions saw Parliament at odds with the Crown until the glorious revolution in 1688 and the passage of the Bill of Rights Act. It was the start of the constitutional monarchy and, in 1690, the Commons took control over the Crown’s use of revenue as well as taxation.

Those crucial separations of power so fiercely fought for over hundreds of years, remain today and establish, to my mind, the breadth and depth of the Speaker’s role.

The role is not just chairing or presiding over the House. It is, in its full context, about ensuring the House of Representatives is free and able to function effectively both as a legislature and in the vital role of holding the Crown or Executive to account.

This view of the Speaker’s role guides my interpretation of Standing Orders and also my role as “Minister” responsible for the Parliamentary Service.

It provided the basis for my departure from some recent Speakers’ Rulings over the conduct of the House – especially question time; the urgent need to re-examine the key Standing Orders having been triggered by a perceived disenchantment (to put it mildly) of the public with the performance of Parliament.

Speaker Margaret Wilson, in a paper for the New Zealand Universities Law Review in 2007, wrote this about the Standing Orders.

“The Standing Orders are often general and capable of different interpretations. The Speaker is guided in his or her judgement on how and when to apply the rules through previous Speakers’ Rulings that have precedent value”.

It would be fair to say that, as a former scientist and not a lawyer, I am more guided by primary analysis than precedent.

A progression of Speakers’ Rulings over the past decade had seen question time become more of an exercise in avoiding questions than answering them.

Speaker Wilson acknowledged this in her law review paper when she wrote:

“Ministers have become skilled at turning the questions and their answers into attacks on the Opposition.”

This was justified with the argument that:

“Given the current Standing Orders, the Ministers are not required to answer the question but to address it ….”

The progression in Speakers’ Rulings probably started in 2001 when Speaker Jonathan Hunt ruled:

“The Standing Orders require a Minister’s reply to address the question. But an adequate answer might not result. The Speaker could not judge that.”

Speaker Wilson elaborated on this in 2005 with her ruling:

“An answer must be relevant to the subject matter of the question. But answer is a neutral word. The quality of the answer required by the Standing Order comes from the use of the word address. That is the test of adequacy.”

What was the outcome of these Speakers’ Rulings?

A journalist writing in a blog in 2008 claimed:

“If a Minister got to their feet and in answer to a question farted loudly, the Speaker would say that they had addressed the question.”

That kind of disdain puts our Parliament at risk. Parliamentary democracy is a fragile thing. History is littered, and not just old history, with Parliament’s powers being usurped by armed force with all the consequent loss of rights and freedoms for the citizens involved.

So what do the Standing Orders actually say about Ministers answering questions.

The relevant Standing Order is 377 which states:

“An answer, that seeks to address the question asked, must be given if it can be given consistently with the public interest.”

I’ve asked myself what that means from two perspectives.

What did the writers of those words intend?

From the perspective of the Speaker’s wider role in protecting the rights of the House of Representatives against the power of the Crown, what do those words mean?

I’ll never forget, about 3 years ago, having dinner with a senior colleague at Bellamy’s. It must have been a day when Ministers had successfully avoided answering most of the questions. With a sigh, my colleague said that of course the Standing Orders only require Ministers to address the questions anyhow.

I said, “well no – they actually require an answer to be given”. My colleague took a bet with me for a bottle of wine and was most surprised when he checked the Standing Order. He lost his bottle of wine.

The Standing Order says that an answer must be given, and to me the word answer is not a neutral word as a Speakers’ Ruling has suggested.

Answer relates directly to a question. What’s more, why would the writers of the Standing Order have included the words “if it can be given consistently with the public interest”, if they had not intended that Ministers should answer questions?

That then brings me to the phrase within the Standing Order “that seeks to address the question”.

Far from being a “test of adequacy” as in the existing Speakers’ Ruling, I see the phrase merely as recognising that for some questions there is no answer.

Where a question is more of a political statement, that part of the Standing Order is helpful in that it requires the Minister’s response to address the same subject matter.

Having analysed the Standing Order somewhat differently from my recent predecessors, I have then applied my second test – what interpretation of the Standing Order best serves the rights of the House of Representatives in holding the Crown to account – the Speaker William Lenthal test if you like.

In thinking about this I’m mindful that Parliament has changed over the years. With the advent of MMP, Parliament is now more a place of political parties than a House of Representatives.

Some have even suggested that question time today should be accepted as political theatre, where Members and parties can trade political blows, verbally that is – we aren’t quite the Ukraine, to establish who and which party is the most politically adept.

But I come back to that vital role of the House of Representatives, that of holding the Crown to account. A Speaker allowing that role to be diluted is, in my view, not protecting the hard fought for rights and privileges of Parliament so courageously upheld by William Lenthal.

So how do I apply my interpretation of Standing Orders to question time – I hope with some common sense, impartiality and, above all, fairness.

Essentially, I recognise three types of question.

  • the question that is a thinly disguised political statement
  • the question that seeks an opinion
  • the question that asks for information.

Strictly, some of the political statements could be ruled out as being inconsistent with the Standing Order covering the asking of questions. But that would involve the Speaker intruding too much into the flow of question time.

So, where a question is essentially a political statement, I expect the Minister to “seek to address the question” in responding. But such a question can expect a political statement in response.

Again, where an opinion is being sought in the question, the reality is that there is no particular answer. Any answer given, however, should address the subject matter of the question.

It is where Ministers are tested with a clear, concise question seeking information that I apply the full force of the Standing Order that an answer must be given if can be given consistently with the public interest.

You may well ask how everyone has reacted to all of this.

To give Ministers credit, apart from some initial dismay that their opportunity to play the political evasion game, after years of suffering from it, was to be somewhat constrained, Ministers have really stepped up to the mark. Answers by and large are much more informative.

Even government departments are putting more work into preparing information for Ministers to answer questions. There have been some glaring embarrassments where they have failed to do this.

Even Members asking questions are now seeing benefit from shorter, more succinct questions that can put a Minister on the spot where an answer is expected. Achieving a greater proportion of more succinct, telling questions, I would have to accept, however, is still work in progress.

Interestingly, there has even been an international reaction. It’s not uncommon for me to receive emails from people in places like Australia and Canada who comment on the day’s question time. And, at this year’s Commonwealth Parliamentary Speakers’ Conference, in New Delhi, New Zealand’s question time was a matter of significant interest.

But it’s our own public, whose Parliament this is, whose reaction is most important to me.

I sense a positive response and more people now seem to be watching question time on the Parliamentary Channel where it is live at 2.00 pm and replayed at both 6.00 pm and 10.00 pm.

It would be fair to say, however, that the positive public response I’m picking up, may link also to two other changes that have been made, changes to both the tone of the House and time wasting in it.

The tone of the Debating Chamber had been a growing problem in recent years. It had been, at times, plain nasty and no one likes to see their Parliament like that.

My analysis indicated that part of the nastiness stemmed from a misuse of points of order.

Under our Standing Orders, any Member can raise a point of order and, because a point of order takes precedence over other business, it is a powerful tool. A point of order can stop the Prime Minister in his tracks.

In recent years, a growing trend had been to use points of order to interrupt speakers and score political points.

In allowing spurious points of order to be heard, the Speaker couldn’t prevent other Members from wading in, and wanting to speak to the point of order. Things would go rapidly from bad to worse, and inevitably end up in nastiness.

The remedy for this was relatively easy. The Standing Orders require a point of order to be put tersely and the Member to speak only to the point of order raised.

I require Members to establish quickly the issue of order, and if I don’t hear it I sit them down. I will not tolerate the business of the House being interrupted with spurious points of order, intended to score political points.

The outcome has been twofold. The tone of the House is much better through the elimination of spurious points of order and, of course, far less time is wasted.

A further action has also had significant impact, and that has been clamping down on the tabling of documents.

A practice had developed in recent years of using Standing Order 368, ‘documents tabled by leave’, simply to score more political points.

Leave would be sought to table documents containing all sorts of political dynamite and often the claimed document didn’t even exist. The Member, seeking leave under a point of order, often had no intention of tabling anything. They were just playing politics and sometimes not very honest politics either.

Again, the remedy wasn’t difficult. A change to Standing Orders required documents to be tabled and I have ruled that where the House gives leave to table a document, it must be tabled that sitting day.

Furthermore, I would no longer seek the House’s permission for leave to table documents readily available to Members, such as recent media reports, Hansards or answers to written questions.

The intent of Standing Order 368 was to enable the House to be informed on matters not readily available to it. It was not intended to facilitate political party point scoring.

The net result of these changes is not only a markedly better humoured house, but time wasting has been reduced to the point where question time now lasts typically an hour, rather than the 1hr 40 minute parade of point scoring of the recent past.

With Parliament costing approximately $520 a minute to run, less time wasting can’t be a bad thing.

For Parliament to operate effectively, Members do need administrative support. This is provided by the Parliamentary Service for which the Speaker is effectively the Minister. Support for Members has been the subject of some comment in recent times following the expenses scandal in the United Kingdom, and the Prime Minister’s and my decision to publish Ministers’ and Members’ expenses here in New Zealand.

A comprehensive account of the role of the Speaker as Minister responsible for the Parliamentary Service was given by Speaker Margaret Wilson in her law review paper of 2007.

She had inherited a situation where the administrative practice for Members’ support had not been updated with legislative change and didn’t entirely match the law. She put much work into remedying that problem. And while I have inherited the role perhaps in more controversial times, I am the beneficiary of her work.

Speaker Wilson, in her 2007 paper, also hinted at a tension between the impartial role of the Speaker in the House and the direct involvement with political parties in the administration of their support through Parliamentary Services. This is an interesting issue.

It’s been put to me that may be an independent, outside authority, should establish the support needed for Members to fulfil their roles.

Certainly, the remuneration of Members is set by the independent Remuneration Authority, and that is how it should be. That Authority, in its salary determinations, takes account of any Members’ support from Parliamentary Services that the Inland Revenue Department has ruled is of a remunerative nature.

The wider Members’ support, however, is currently determined by the Speaker who issues a determination on travel, accommodation, attendance and communication services to be provided to Members under the Civil List Act 1979.

The Speaker also issues directions to the Parliamentary Service on the nature of the administration and support services under the Parliamentary Service Act 2000.

There will undoubtedly be ongoing scrutiny of this, and where Members’ support is covered by expense payments from taxpayer money, and not deducted from Members’ salaries, those expense payments should be transparent.

But if one comes back to the full role of the Speaker as the claimant for, and the protector of, the rights and privileges required for a fully functional parliamentary democracy to operate, then I would argue the Speaker has a continuing responsibility for these issues of Members’ support.

A part of the privileges of the House is the exclusive right to control its own operation.

The issues aren’t as simple as they may appear on the face of it. Ministerial Services provides support for the Executive, and it’s important that Opposition, and other non-Executive Members are not disadvantaged in the support they receive through Parliamentary Services.

I would also argue that the nature of administrative support should reflect the fact that we still do have a House of Representatives. The change to the MMP electoral system may well have pushed political parties more deeply into the heart of our Parliament, but it is ultimately Members who represent their people, and the administration of support services must facilitate that representation.

Just as requiring Ministers to answer appropriate questions in the House may have made the Speaker’s role a little more challenging, so too the role of determining and administering Member support should not be abandoned just because it is inevitably controversial.

The Speaker claims the rights and privileges of the House from the monarch’s representative. The Speaker has a responsibility to secure the resources necessary to support it.

The impartiality and fairness required in chairing the House should be no more difficult to apply to determining that necessary support.

Some might ask what change I want to try and encourage next.

There is something.

One of the unintended consequences of giving political parties a far greater role in Parliament with an MMP electoral system, has been a change in the nature of debate.

It’s fair to say it was probably never great, but at least at times we did have some really interesting debates. Now, most so called debate consists of time limited set pieces with each party having an allocated number of speeches.

With the enormous control parties now have over their Members through the power of the Party List, debate has tended to become more a repetitive parroting of parties’ political positions.

So bad has it got, we even see Members get to their feet and read a typed speech, obviously written by the party’s research unit, and may be not even seen by the Member until just before the so-called debate.

In the House, Members are expected to reflect the views of those they represent, which hopefully is wider than just a political party, and seek to persuade other Members to the soundness of those views and the thinking behind them.

Sadly, these days that is a rare event. And one small step towards remedying the problem might be to discourage Members from reading pre-prepared speeches.

Such a move wouldn’t magically restore great debate.

However, any move to encourage less of the endless repetition of party positions would be healthy for our House of Representatives.

You might wish me luck, but I think, as you can see, I don’t shrink from challenges.

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Launch of Simultaneous Interpretation in the House

Grand Hall at Parliament House

6pm to 7.30pm

Greetings, Office of the Clerk, Parliamentary Service,

Tihei mauri ora

Tuia ki runga

Tuia ki raro

Tuia ki roto

Tuia ki waho

Tuia te here tangata

Ka rongo te po, ka rongo te ao

E ngā mana, e nga reo,

E ngā karanga maha e huihui nei, tēnā tātou katoa.

Translation

Behold the breath of life

Fasten above

Bind below

Unite from within

Unify the outer

Unify the strand of man

Listen constantly night and day

To those gathered here

From diverse backgrounds,

I greet you all

Māori language in the House of Representatives has been an enduring element of New Zealand democracy since the first four Māori MPs were elected in 1868. At that time, Te Arawa chief, Pōkiha Taranui questioned the point of “our chiefs being sent into the Pākehā parliament if they can’t understand the language of the Pākehā.”

They were provided with sequential interpretation of English into Te Reo Māori and, as required, Te Reo Māori into English.

Now, 142 years later, simultaneous interpretation on a permanent basis is being introduced into the House allowing for seamless interpretation of Te Reo Maori into English.

From today whenever a member speaks in Te Reo Māori, simultaneous interpretation into English will be provided. This brings to fruition the Standing Orders Committee recommendation in 2008 that simultaneous interpretation be introduced to the House in either language without waiting for an interpretation to be given afterwards. This is expected to improve the flow of debate in the House.

Members will listen via earpieces provided at their seats. Gallery visitors can ask the attendants for a receiver and earpiece.

Viewers of Parliament TV will have a choice of audio with the live television coverage. They will be able to hear whatever is spoken in the House, either English or Māori, or they can hear “English only.”

I am told it will be seamless as a flick of a switch which will divert the audio stream from the member speaking in the House in Te Reo Māori to the interpreter working in a specially equipped interpreter’s booth in a studio adjacent to the House.

For most New Zealanders it will be a new experience as they choose a preferred audio stream while watching television. I am told the process of choosing the audio stream is going to test many less accomplished users of the remote controls like me, but will be achievable by pushing enough buttons – or even get your 10-year-old to do it for you!

This achievement is a tribute to the work of the Office of the Clerk, Clerk Assistant (Reporting Services), Wynne Price and her team including project manager and Senior Parliamentary Officer (Broadcasting) Carol Rankin, Te Kaiwhakahaere - Nga Ratonga Reo Māori, Wīremu Haunui and his team, technical staff, Parliamentary Service, and all those who have worked with them to make this happen. There have been many hours of negotiation and discussion with the providers of various services to accommodate this modernisation of Parliament’s interpretation services.

Development of Māori Language services in the House since 1997 has been rapid beginning with Wīremu who was then a part-time interpreter on contract in the chamber. In 2000 a simultaneous interpretation service in Māui Tikitiki-a-Taranga was provided and in 2004 a Kaiwhakamārama Reo was appointed. By last year, there were four staff engaged in a range of interpretation, transcription and translation services.

The spur for Te Reo Māori was the ruling by Sir Douglas Kidd, who ruled that,” when a member speaks in Māori that member does so as of right.” (1997, Vol. 562. p. 3192. Kidd)

Timing for a speaker on the floor of the House is strictly controlled, and Sir Douglas Kidd acknowledged that time was an issue when interpreting Māori into English. He decided the interpretation was for the benefit of members who do not understand Māori. He then also ruled that what ever time is allowed by Standing Orders for a particular type of speech in Māori, additional time would be allowed for interpretation.

Simultaneous interpretation means the allowance of time for interpretation within the House is unlikely to be factor in the future.

I also wish to note that the simultaneous interpretation does not form part of the official record of House proceedings. It is a service provided to the House to facilitate debate. A considered, written translation will appear in the published Hansard as the official record.

The simultaneous interpretation service now available is further recognition of the place of the Māori language in Parliament and the status of Te Reo Māori as an official language of New Zealand.

Some of you might like to look at the timeline displayed here in the Grand Hall which summarises the place of the Māori language in Parliament over a full 140 years or more.

From 1868 until 1920 Parliament had interpreters in the House.

The first interpreter was E.W. Puckey, from the Native Department who began his duties on 4 August 1868. He entered the chamber and sat between two of the new Māori MPs following a motion passed in the House that: “pending the consideration of permanent arrangements for the interpretation of Māori speeches, Mr Speaker be requested to summon the interpreter of the House to interpret for the Māori members.”

It is fair to say that the interpreters were absolutely vital to the functioning of the Māori MPs in those days. Most of them had a rudimentary grasp of English at best until the turn of the twentieth century.

By the 1880s the interpreters’ duties (two in the House of Representatives and one in the Legislative Council) also included translating bills and parliamentary papers into Māori, translating hundreds of petitions from Māori, and attending the Māori Affairs Committee.

By the turn of the twentieth century younger Māori members were well educated and spoke English well. Continued employment of interpreters became an issue.

In 1913 Apirana Ngata attempted to speak in Māori without an interpreter present in order to obstruct business. Speaker Lang ruled that the Māori MPs should speak in English if they were able to. This ruling established expectations for much of the twentieth century.

Employment of an interpreter lapsed from 1920. In following years Māori MPs were able to speak briefly in Māori if they themselves provided a sequential interpretation.

Speaker Lang’s ruling of 1913 remained in place into the 1980s but some flexibility was evident. Tapihana Paraire ‘Dobbie’ Paikea (Northern Maori, 1943-63) spoke in Māori – to much mirth from his fellow members even though his interpretation gave no indication why. Oddly, this often occurred on Fridays (then a sitting day). He was ingeniously broadcasting through the radio details to his wife about his impending return home and other ‘marital intimacies’!

This is not to encourage similar practices today. The Speaker must always be vigilant to ensure that speaking in the House is for its proper purpose!

By the 1990s the demand to speak Māori was growing. In 1990 Koro Wētere as Minister replied to questions in Māori and refused to provide an interpretation. On becoming Speaker in 1993 Peter Tapsell sang a waiata and suggested that the occasional use of Māori for formal matters would be appropriate.

With the reintroduction of interpreters and Māori language services in the last 10 or 15 years, the Māori language has become more commonplace in the chamber.

Parliament continues to recognise the importance of Te Reo Māori to New Zealand’s political affairs, society and culture. The introduction of simultaneous interpretation is evidence of that commitment.

I am pleased to now officially launch the simultaneous interpretation service for the House of Representatives.

ENDS

Speech to Commonwealth Parliamentary Association - 18th Australian and Pacific Regional Seminar

NZ Parliament, Wellington, New Zealand.

3 November, 2009, 10.30am , Select Committee Rooms 1/2 Bowen House.

Opening Address

The Hon Dr Lockwood Smith

Speaker of the House of Representatives

President of the CPA New Zealand Branch

I am very pleased to be here today to open this, the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association’s 18th Australian and Pacific Regional Seminar, in Wellington.

I am particularly heartened to welcome the Samoan and Tongan delegates who have made a significant commitment to be here today.

I would also like to note the presence of the longest serving member of Parliament within our region, the very experienced Uliti Uata, the Peoples No.1 Representative for the Island Group of Ha’apai in Tonga, who has served as a member for the past 34 years. He took the place of honour in responding to the pöwhiri today on your welcome to the New Zealand Parliament.

This has been a very active year for our region with the 40th Conference of Presiding Officers and Clerks being held at Tarawa, Kiribati earlier this year.

There is much to discuss over the next two days particularly the recurring theme of climate change and the deep concerns of the peoples within the Pacific region of the potential hazards presented by the possibility of rising oceans.

Our Australian members are also taking up the climate theme for this seminar with the Tasmanian delegate discussing ways of building on their advantages and the Northern Territory introducing the impact of bushfires on the environment.

Representative democracy in our region is a powerful force for freedom and fairness in the government of all our people. But it does not materialise or take root on its own. There is a need for ongoing support and assistance, and encouragement from member countries for there to be true representation.

The presence of Bougainville today is a remarkable tribute to the resilience and determination of a people in developing a process of internal self government as an autonomous region.

New Zealand has been pleased to play a role in supporting the development of self government through the provision of technical support including training and advice.

There are challenges too in Samoa and I know the delegates here today will be interested in learning about reforms in the Samoan Parliament still strongly aligned with mati who hold 47 of the 49 seats. The position of Samoa is a reflection of the diversity of systems being applied to internal self government within our region.

The participation of youth in the democratic process is being discussed where parliamentary organisations meet around the world. The Secretary – General of the Commonwealth, Kamalesh Sharma, in marking the 60th anniversary of the Commonwealth earlier this year, that there is a need for young people to be both seen and heard at the global decision-making table.

His views strike a chord in our region when says there is a need for the views of our young to be heard and acted upon in every corner of public life and, and that the contributions of the young should be embraced.

Next year I will be sponsoring the sixth youth Parliament here in New Zealand as a means to helping young people understand what goes in Parliament and to give them the opportunity to express their views to politicians and the public. I invite all of you to follow its progress and, if you have not done so, consider adopting a similar concept in your parliament.

I know all delegates will be interested in the session engaging with youth which will be chaired by our New Zealand delegate Carmel Sepuloni MP. Carmel last month took a lead role in a workshop on engaging future generations in representative democracy at the 55th Commonwealth Parliamentary Association conference in Arusha, Tanzania, speaking on her experience as a young MP in the New Zealand Parliament.

There is also a lot of interest in the workshop on gender representation which will be led by Chris Auchinvole MP. Gender balance is very important for a country’s democracy and I am sure this topic will generate a lot of discussion among delegates.

The last occasion on which this regional seminar was staged in New Zealand was 1996. Since then it is pleasing to see that there has been a strengthening of cooperation and shared support for each other through our network of Parliaments at national and state levels. I look forward to this seminar further enhancing that positive development.

And I look forward to opportunity to further enhance this benefit which flows from gatherings such as this.

It is my pleasure and formal duty as President of the CPA New Zealand Branch to declare this Commonwealth Parliamentary Association 18th Australian and Pacific Regional Seminar officially open.

Foreword to Commonwealth Parliamentary Association 18th Australian and Pacific Regional Seminar, Wellington

2 November 2009

The Hon Dr Lockwood Smith

President of the New Zealand Branch of the CPA

Speaker of the House of Representatives of New Zealand

The Commonwealth Parliamentary Association (CPA) has an important role in supporting and helping strengthen Parliamentary democracy in the New Zealand, Australian and Pacific Regions.

The 18th Australian and Pacific Regional Seminar to be held in Wellington will provide a valuable opportunity to share and assess our respective views about how Parliaments can better serve their nations.

In welcoming delegates to this seminar, I am mindful of the deep tragedy suffered by Samoa and Tonga where there was sad loss of life following the recent tsunami.

The events were a stark reminder of the vulnerability of our region to natural disasters and the importance of working together to provide assistance in times of need.

Representative democracy in our region is a powerful force for freedom and fairness in the government of all our people.

Continued cooperation and shared support for each other through our network of Parliaments at national and state levels will be one of the outcomes sought from this Seminar. I look forward to renewing friendships and engaging with new members of Parliament during the course of proceedings.

The New Zealand Parliament, the Parliamentary process and the Role of the Speaker

Address to the NZ Business and Parliament Trust Seminar, Legislative Council Chamber, Parliament House

9.10 am Wednesday 6 May 2009

Welcome to Parliament, New Zealand’s sovereign law-making body.

New Zealand inherited the Westminster parliamentary system’s history and tradition, much of which continues to influence what we do and how we do it.

Our own history and experience has, however, brought some monumental changes to the face - and body – of New Zealand’s Parliament and we have several times led the world in modernisation and achieving full democracy.

For all but the first 14 years since European settlement we have had an elected Parliament, a record that puts us pretty near to the top of the list of the world’s democratic legislative assemblies.

In fact, if you accept universal suffrage - the right of all adults to vote - as a prerequisite for a fully representative, elected assembly, then New Zealand heads the list, having achieved full manhood suffrage in 1879 and female suffrage in 1893. However it was 1919 before we gave women the right to stand for Parliament.

In another break with Westminster and several of our Commonwealth counterparts, we dispensed with our Upper House, or Legislative Council, in 1950.

In the absence of a second house, Select Committees now perform a robust series of checks on the Executive as well as giving the public extremely good access to parliamentary deliberations.

The Select Committee system and the introduction of MMP - Mixed Member Proportional Representation – have brought major changes to our Parliament, including a greater number of MPs representing a wider public voice.

MMP has also influenced how the House is administered. Each party is allocated speaking time in the House on a strictly proportional basis according to party numbers in the House.

Even the allocation of questions and supplementary questions has a formal mechanism based on the party proportions in the House, excluding Ministers.

Thus over a 6-week period National is entitled to 80 questions, Labour 99, Green 21, ACT and Maori parties 7 each, Progressive 2, United Future 0.

When it comes to supplementary questions, over a week Labour, as the largest Opposition party, is entitled to 82 supplementary questions, National 67, Green 17, ACT and Maori parties 6 each, Progressive 2 and United Future 0.

Depending on their size, each party will have an opportunity to lead off question time and will have to take its fair share of less prominent positions in the questions order.

Parties are free to exchange slots with other parties, but they must advise the Clerk of the House when the question is lodged.

Constitutionally, the position of the Speaker of the House of Representatives is the third highest in the land. The Queen’s representative, the Governor-General, is highest of course, followed by the Prime Minister and then the Speaker.

This underscores the importance of Parliament in the democratic governance of our country.

When our Westminster system of parliamentary democracy was still developing in Britain, the presiding officer became known as “the Speaker” because the House of Commons would elect one of its members to be its “mouthpiece to the Crown”. The Speaker would convey the wishes of the House to the King (or Queen).

There is a widespread belief that several British Speakers were executed in the line of duty in the 15th and 16th Centuries because the King or Queen was unhappy with the message delivered on behalf of the House of Commons.

It is true that some people who held the office of Speaker went on to lose their heads, but it had more to do with their activities when they were not presiding in the House – taking part in the civil war, for instance and ending up on the losing side.

While the myth might be more interesting than the reality, it has served to highlight the responsibilities the Speaker had to the House.

My conduct as Speaker is governed by very clear conventions.

The first and most important is non-partisanship. I must never display favour or disdain for one party or side of the House. All Members of the House must be treated equally, regardless of their party affiliation and I have had to put aside my personal political beliefs when carrying out my functions as the Speaker.

Any Speaker who does otherwise would soon lose the confidence of the House.

The second principle, although related to non-partisanship, is independence from the Executive government.

My rulings and actions cannot be dictated or in any way swayed by Executive orders, or ministerial demands.

As Speaker I have several roles – I am a presiding officer when the House is sitting, a landlord, a committee chairperson, a spokesperson for the House, a quasi-Minister of the Crown, and of course, a Member of Parliament. I also chair the Parliamentary Service Commission, which is responsible for members’ administrative support.

My most visible job however is that of presiding over the House.

I am responsible for maintaining order and decorum enabling business to proceed without unnecessary disruption.

One of the most challenging sessions is the daily question time which you will be observing after lunch. It is during these sessions that Executive Government is held to account by the House. Ministers are on permanent notice that Government activity must always be capable of standing up to regular scrutiny by the Members of the House of Representatives.

It is my role to apply the Standing Orders - the rules governing House procedure - and adjudicate on matters of procedure.

In recent years I have become concerned that the way question time was being conducted was devaluing this critical accountability role of our Parliament.

The practice has developed whereby Ministers seem to be putting more effort into evading questions than providing answers the House, on behalf of the public, could reasonably expect.

I was determined, when I accepted the role of Speaker, that I was going to try and change that. Parliament was, in my view, too important, and the role of question time too vital a part of the accountability process, for the whole thing to reduce, as the public saw it, t0 a farce.

To the Government’s credit, Ministers have responded positively to my change in interpretation of the relevant Standing Order, and are now answering questions in a much more informative way. Judging by the flow of communications from the public, watching question time on the parliamentary television channel, the change has been well received.

While I am satisfied with the outcome, I must say I have made something of a rod for my own back in that question time now requires the Speaker to bring a high level of concentration and focus to the process.

One of my less-publicised roles is that of ‘Landlord’. Technically I control all of Parliament’s grounds and buildings; Parliament House, and the adjoining Beehive and Parliamentary Library as well as the lease on Bowen House which is, according to statute, administered by the Speaker.

I have the sometimes-unenviable task of allocating office space and controlling access to the buildings and grounds.

In adjudicating on matters of access it can be difficult to balance the right of those who work at Parliament to an orderly and respectful working environment with the democratic right of access by the news media and the public to their House of Representatives.

After all, every Member of Parliament is accountable to the public and it is essential that those they represent have access to them and that the news media, representing the public, can ask questions of them.

A large news media contingent occupies permanent offices within the Parliamentary complex and it is my job to approve their accreditation and occasionally issue rules for their conduct within the parliamentary complex. Again, it is a matter of balancing their needs with those of MPs.

The Speaker’s role also involves chairmanship of three select committees.

The Business Committee, which coordinates the business of the House, comprises representatives of all elected political parties. These members can discuss any problems they have to ensure the House can focus on debating issues rather than managing business.

The Officers of Parliament Committee covers the Controller and Auditor-General, the Ombudsman, and the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment; all of whom are directly responsible to Parliament.

The third body I chair is the Standing Orders Committee, which reviews the rules of the House.

The Speaker is also the Responsible Minister for a number of offices of state including the Parliamentary Service with a budget of around 130 million dollars and a staff of about 650 full-time equivalents and the Office of the Clerk with a budget of approximately 20 million dollars and a staff of about 125.

In addition to this, the Speaker chairs the Parliamentary Service Commission, a statutory committee of members which advises the Speaker on the nature of the services to be provided to Members of Parliament.

In carrying out these functions the Speaker is totally independent of Executive government. My role, however, ensures the same political accountability required of any government department.

But my fundamental role remains – that of being a Member of Parliament. In some countries the Speaker sheds official political party affiliations on election to the position.

Indeed, they stand almost unopposed in General Elections to ensure they are not involved in political campaigning. While that would have its undoubted attraction, I’m not advocating it here.

Our system is a little more practical and recognises that members have basic political values, beliefs, friendships and loyalties that do not magically disappear on resignation from a political party.

We only require that a Speaker actively and conscientiously approach the job in an impartial manner.

Under our MMP system the Speaker, like all other MPs, has a vote in debates, though never a casting vote. This differs from the first-past-the-post system where the Speaker did not vote except to make a casting vote in the event of a tie.

My vote maintains the proportionality of the results of the General Election, as decided by the party vote. I always vote the party stance except on issues that are designated matters of conscience.

As Parliament’s representative I regularly meet foreign ambassadors and high commissioners, visiting delegations and presiding officers on behalf of Parliament.

I also take an annual Speaker’s Delegation to visit other parliaments elsewhere in the world. The fact that a number of the Members on the 2008 delegation were to retire that year certainly brought the value of the Speaker’s Delegations into public question.

However, the Speaker’s Delegations can have real value for New Zealand. Throughout the democratic world, the position of Speaker is highly respected.

Because of that respect the Speaker can open doors for our diplomats and trade representatives that might otherwise take much longer without the Speaker’s support.

A recent example was when the 2009 Speaker’s Delegation visited Japan. In addition to valuable meetings with the Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, the delegation was able to meet with an extraordinary array of business interests in Hokkaido, and made crucial contacts with key players in the agriculture and tourist industries in that part of Japan, so crucial to advancing New Zealand’s economic relationship with Japan.

In addition, the warmth generated during our visit to both Viet Nam and Japan highlighted the value such delegations can bring to strengthening New Zealand’s relationships with crucially important economic partners.

From my time as Minister for International Trade, I was aware of the high regard in which New Zealand is held internationally. That reputation has been built by successive Ministers working internationally for peaceful stability, and prosperity through free and open trade. Because of the status of the office, the Speaker has an extraordinary opportunity to enhance and add value to that work.

This Parliament lies at the heart of our democratic process. It is the symbol of our freedom. As Speaker I will do all I can to enhance its standing in the eyes of my fellow New Zealanders.

Speech prepared for delivery at the ANZAC Day Commemoration Service

Commonwealth war cemetery, Yokohama, Japan

Saturday 25 April, 2009

Here, today, in this small enclave of the Hodogaya Commonwealth War Cemetery in Yokohama, we gather to commemorate those of the Commonwealth who died during the war with Japan and as members of the Jay Force who came to moderate the peace of war’s end.

One we remember is William Brody, 5th Engineer on the NZ – flagged Merchant Navy ship M.V. Hauraki.

Requisitioned by the British War Ministry, the Hauraki was intercepted in the Indian Ocean en route to the Middle East by armed Japanese merchant ships.

The ship’s company of 56 men were mostly New Zealanders. Except for the engineers and the captain, the crew were set down in Singapore and incarcerated for the duration of the war.

The trip to Japan that ensued for the engineers was an example of courage as, with stealth and guile, they dropped overboard essential spare part for the ship’s engines while under the watchful eye of armed guards.  They also set about further debilitating the engines by running them low on essential oil.

They were first set to work on docklands at the Mitsubishi shipyard here in Yokohama, but American bombing of Tokyo in March of 1945 meant the POWs were sent by train to Kamaishi steelworks on the north east coast of Honshu.

On the day the second atomic bomb was dropped on Nagasaki, aircraft flew from American and British air craft carriers and attacked various targets along the coast of Honshu.

Kamaishi was shelled by Allied warships. The POW camp lay between the coast and the steel plant. William Brody was severely wounded, dying on 10 August, 1945 at the age of 30, just five days before the war ended.

Today we commemorate him and his fellow New Zealanders who did not make it back home and who rest here in Japanese soil.

But today they lie in friendly soil for our nations have forged a new future together.

In 1999 New Zealand was a member of the force of the willing, the Australian-led INTERFET operation in East Timor. New Zealand and Australia were both given the task of patrolling and protecting the border with West Timor and preventing incursions across the border the mandate of the United Nations. Japan established and staffed a medical facility in the region supporting the New Zealand contingent.

And our joint efforts in the interest of global peace have continued since then with the Royal New Zealand Navy frigates deployed in support of Operation Enduring Freedom in the Gulf receiving refueling assistance from the Japanese Maritime Self Defence Force.

New Zealand and Japan have formed a close defence and security relationship reflecting our shared interest in the stability, growth and development of the Asia-Pacific region, and, above all its freedom.

I have stood on Chunuk Bair and at Lone Pine on ANZAC Day and seen the tears flow down the cheeks of the thousands who each year make the pilgrimage to Gallipoli, the place where our nationhood and the enduring ANZAC bond was forged.

And those tears are shed not just for the New Zealanders, Australians and Commonwealth soldiers who died there, but for all our peoples who have suffered from the unthinkable calamity of war.

They are the tears of humanity, and while they flow we will never forget. And in those tears lies the promise of freedoms our shared future can bring. Let them never be squandered. Let them never be in vain.

Europe in the Changing World challenges, priorities and research collaboration

Christchurch Club, 154 Worcester Street, Christchurch

7.00pm, Friday 26 September, 2008

May I first thank the National Centre for Research on Europe for the invitation to participate in this conference aptly named Europe in the Changing World: challenges, priorities and research collaboration.

May I also congratulate Martin and his team on the Annual Review of the Centre. I read it with interest and can see how established the work of the Centre has become in the academic life of New Zealand. I am sure the research conducted by the Centre will contribute to our knowledge of Europe, especially the enlarged Europe.

I have supported the work of the Centre since it was established and I was still working at the University of Waikato. I recall at the time when the information about the Centre first came to us that I thought this is exactly what was needed. It was needed I thought because we often take for granted our understanding and knowledge of Europe and at that time had underestimated the importance of the influence of a united Europe in world affairs. I think there is now a greater understanding, especially since the countries of what we called Eastern Europe have joined the European Union, but we need an authoritative source of information and analysis and that is the Centre.

I also thought at the time and continue to think that we underestimate the influence of the history and culture of Europe on our identity and character. Much of the discussion in recent times has been on New Zealand as a Pacific nation or as being part of Asia. All of this is true and good, but it should never be forgotten that much of our institutions and culture has its roots in Europe also. Europe both looking forward and looking back is important to New Zealand.

It is useful to remind ourselves that the EU is New Zealand’s second largest trading partner and that European countries make up 14 of our 50 top trading partners, with a combined total of around 16% of our merchandise trade.  Also the 27 members of the EU account for 31% of the world’s economic output and purchasing power.  When you add in other European countries, and Russia, you are looking at over a third of the global economy. 

We share a vision for a just, secure and sustainable world and are committed multi-lateralists and therefore cooperate closely on a broad range of international issues. A significant milestone in the New Zealand – EU partnership was the conclusion last September of our Joint Declaration on relations and cooperation. The Declaration outlines the broad range of shared interests covered in our relationship with Europe, which highlighted that we need to engage with the EU on a whole-of-government basis. 

As the Joint Declaration between the European Union and New Zealand points out, in today’s increasingly volatile and complex international environment, the value of dialogue and the exchange of information cannot be underestimated. We welcome the existing twice-yearly bilateral Ministerial Troika consultations. Regular contacts take place between the President of the Commission, the European Union High Representative and the New Zealand Prime Minister – in addition to the regular dialogue between the New Zealand Parliament and the European Parliament. We expect these exchanges to continue on a regular basis.

Opportunities will be sought for further dialogue through bilateral visits at Ministerial and Commissioner level and in the margins of international meetings. This will be supplemented with a regular exchange of information missions and in other fora. High-level visits between New Zealand and European Union institutions, and EU member states, are an important anchor for the relationship. The New Zealand Prime Minister travels frequently to Brussels. The Minister of Foreign Affairs travels to Europe at least every six months for high-level consultations with the holders of the EU Presidency. Other Ministers also travel frequently to EU countries, the recent Speaker’s delegations have gone to European countries, the annual exchanges between the New Zealand Parliament and the European Parliament, and the parliaments of member states, establish and strengthen invaluable links between New Zealand and Europe. Parliamentary friendship groups on both sides also play a vital role in the relationship.

Our relationship with Europe goes beyond trade. It is important to recognise the cultural inheritance we in New Zealand have been gifted by Europe. The settlers in the 19th century were drawn primarily from the United Kingdom and Ireland, but it is important not to forget the French influence was strong, especially through the Catholic missionaries, and the smaller communities who came from Scandinavia, Germany, Dalmatia, Netherlands, Switzerland and many other countries. As pioneers they possessed self-reliance and independence, and an openness to innovation and change that was essential to survival. We like to think that these characteristics have become part of our identity as New Zealanders.

For me one of the most important connections with Europe has been the commitment to democratic decision making. While New Zealand has one of the oldest Parliamentary democracies, it has benefited from democratic movements in Europe in the 18th and 19th centuries. I would argue that we still have much to learn from European constitutional movements as is seen from our MMP electoral system that owes much to the German system. It was for this reason I decided to lead three Speaker’s Delegations to Europe.

I thought this evening I would concentrate on one aspect of our relationship with Europe that is rarely touched on and that is the relationship between Parliaments. It is not well known that Parliament has 8 friendship groups with European Member Parliaments, including the European Parliament. A friendship group is the means by which Members of Parliament can express their individual interest and support for developing a relationship with Parliamentarians from that particular Parliament. They have nothing to do with the executive and are organised by the members themselves but with the support of the Speaker’s Office.

They are essentially informal groups but there has been a recent tendency for some of them to be more active. This activity ranges from engaging with the various missions based in Wellington, to arranging exchanges, to hosting visiting delegations. Many European Parliaments also have New Zealand Friendship groups and I have noted an increased interest in the countries I have visited to form such a group. I have sought to encourage the groups because they enable Members to be better informed about other Parliaments and countries. As a small country at the bottom of the world we need to be constantly aware of what is happening elsewhere. To the credit of most Members I think as a Parliament we are outward looking and there is an understanding of the importance to engage with other Parliamentarians.

As I noted, I have led three cross-party delegations to Europe. The purpose of these has been to affirm the connection between our Parliament, and where there is a friendship group to meet and discuss issues of mutual interest, and where there is no group to seek to ensure one is established. An equally important reason has been to study the electoral system and administration of the Parliament in the countries visited. The reason for this is simple.

Most European Parliaments have some form of MMP government and are of more interest to us in many ways than the Westminster Parliament. I have felt it is important Members of Parliament are familiar with these systems as it is inevitable that at some point we must adapt our form of MMP. For example, I believe a successful electorate Member should only bring other Members into Parliament if they reach the 5% threshold. The other reason I promoted the visits is because Europe is important to our economy and we need to press our case, especially with the recently admitted countries.

It is a matter of record that such delegations receive a bad press. I can only assume it results from residual travel envy by journalists or more accurately their editors. Someone should tell them travel broadens the mind, or maybe that is the problem! I would note that I have approved seven other overseas visits and approved numerous inbound visits from delegations. The New Zealand Parliament is a popular destination because of our Select Committee system and a reputation of innovation in a variety of policy areas.

I thought it may be of interest to relate what happens on these delegations. In 2006 we travelled to the European Parliament in Brussels, and then on to Turkey. We learnt about the operation of the European Parliament in the context of the campaign at the time for Turkey to join the European Union. We were in effect hosted by the very strong and active friendship group that regularly visits the New Zealand Parliament. It quickly became clear that there was a sharp division of opinion within the Parliament on the admission of Turkey, which was the same amongst Turkish Parliamentarians when we visited their Parliament.

The visit was also useful for me because of the somewhat boring, but important issue of the administration of Parliament. I was embarking on a programme of major reform of our Parliament’s entitlements for Members and found the European Parliament also had such issues but on a much larger scale. I am a firm believer that an efficient transparent administration of Parliament is essential for its credibility. There is not enough time to recite what else we learnt in both institutions but it confirmed for me that Turkey is an economy and a country that New Zealand cannot ignore and that there is a great deal of goodwill within its Parliament for New Zealand.

In 2007 the Delegation visited Germany, the Netherlands and Norway. The purpose was primarily to look at their MMP systems, in particular Germany which provided the model for our electoral system. The overwhelming impression from visiting these countries was the increasing demand from citizens to more direct forms of participation within the political system. We could also observe the visible tensions within the ‘grand coalition’ in Germany. It was a useful reminder that all coalitions come at a price and in Germany the price was that some issues were simply placed on the back burner as being just too hard. The observation was also made that the coalition had given political prominence to the political extremes which given Germany’s history was a concern raised by several people.

When it came to this year’s Speaker’s delegation, I confess my choice was largely driven by my interest in learning more about the new enlarged Europe and understanding the role played by Poland, the Czech Republic and Hungary. I rate this as a highly successful visit and given the recent events in Georgia gave us an insight into the issues facing those countries. More specifically we found a great deal of interest in New Zealand and reforms in the agricultural sector. Our visit had followed a large delegation from Poland to New Zealand and a Czech Delegation is here in New Zealand now.

We also noted that while there was an acceptance of the need for these countries to join the European Union to be able to move forward, there was also considerable scepticism about the long term benefits. The Treaty of Lisbon has provided the catalyst for this debate so I felt it was important to continue to watch the debate over ratification of the Treaty after the rejection by Ireland in the recent referendum.

There was also tremendous appreciation for the assistance New Zealand has extended to the citizens of those countries after World War 11, the 1956 Hungarian Uprising, and the 1968 Czech Uprising. As an aside – Peter Brown, a NZ First Member of the delegation, found he was in much demand the day we arrived in Hungary as the junior coalition partner withdrew, leaving Hungary with its first experience of a minority government.

Before I conclude I want to make a few general observations from the visits to Europe on what we learnt about the state of representative Parliaments. As I have said, one of primary purposes of the visits was to study electoral developments and the legislative and administrative processes of the various Parliaments we studied. We were also interested in the level of support for the Treaty of Lisbon and the constitutional union of Europe. While there was widespread support for the economic benefits of the union, with the usual caveats of too much regulation and bureaucracy, there was less enthusiasm for the political and constitutional arrangements. Our last visit was just before the Irish referendum and I had the impression that result may have been repeated in other countries, which maybe explains why in the countries we visited the Parliaments had the authority to make the decision.

This is not the occasion to examine this issue, as I am sure it has been covered during the conference. It was apparent however that there is a malaise infecting the various representative parliamentary democracies. Disappointing low turnouts at elections and an increasing cynicism about politics and governments generally were all repeated to us as concerns by commentators and politicians. An increasing demand for more participation in the decision making process was often heard. The gap between the governors and the governed has become too great and has led to alienation. Parliaments were seen as representing a professional elite and distant from the people they represent. While the individual Parliaments were being urged by some to be more participatory, it was difficult for people to see the relevance of a European Parliament or constitution, which seemed even more remote and of less direct relevance to the lives of the citizens in the constituent countries.

I think this will be a challenge for us all – how to make our Parliaments not only more representative but more participatory. In New Zealand MMP has made our Parliament more representative but I doubt it is seen as more participative. There needs to be a serious re-engagement with the democratic project otherwise we are in danger of losing it. I know there is literature around this issue that explores ways in which to revive citizens’ interest and participation so I shall not pursue the question here. I raise it however to demonstrate the value of increased contact between New Zealand and the European Union. We share a democratic tradition that is in the process of a necessary evolution so we have much to learn from each other.

I feel I have exhausted my time for an after dinner speech. I do appreciate the time you have given me however because it enabled me to provide some assurance that Parliament takes our relationship with the European Union very seriously. New Zealand has a good international image which is in part attributed to the numerous face to face contacts between Members of Parliament and their counterparts in other countries. We take our international obligations seriously and this attracts many overseas Parliaments to visit to learn about our form of democratic government. All this can only be positive for our future.

I am not sure if there is time for questions but if there is I am happy to answer them.

End of Session speech

Thursday, 25 September 2008

Members of Parliament, as the 2008 parliamentary year comes to a close, we also come to the end of another Parliamentary term. In the traditional way I wish to pay tribute to all the people who contribute to the efficient functioning of this House.

First I must acknowledge the support of my colleague and Deputy Speaker Clem Simich, who like myself is retiring at the end of this Parliament. He has given commendable service to this House. l also thank Assistant Speaker Ross Robertson for his contribution to the House, and the Hon Marian Hobbs who filled the role of Assistant Speaker earlier this year with her own refreshing style. I also acknowledge the tireless work of Parliament's kaumatua and kula John Tahuparae and Rose White. Thank you.

Parliament could not function without the tireless work of the Clerk's Office whose professionalism is a credit to the leadership of the Clerk Mary Hams and her senior team who oversee servicing of the table of the House; compiling Hansard records; processing legislation, questions and petitions; and serving select committees. In this context it is important to acknowledge the work of Chief Parliamentary Counsel David Noble and his team who deliver a high quality service to Parliament. While the Chamber is the focus of Parliamentary activities, the activities of the House are supported by the staff of the Parliamentary Service. It has been another year of much change for the Service and I want to record my thanks for the work of Geoff Thom, the General Manager who leads the team in constantly striving to improve the service to Members. The team is a large one both inside and outside Parliament and includes Members' support staff, including executive assistants; support staff of the various Parliamentary parties; the staff of the Parliamentary library; research units; chamber and gallery officers; interpreters, security staff; building services staff; telephonists; travel office staff; and the reception and visitor services staff. A special thanks to the Bellamy's staff that often under difficult circumstances work to ensure the Members and staff are well fuelled for their jobs.

My thanks to Serjeant-at-Arms Brent Smith, and to all those who work with him to uphold the traditions and propriety of the Chamber and to welcome visitors to the Parliamentary galleries. They are an essential part of the running of Parliament and events such as the highly successful Open Day at Parliament in October_ Others who work hard to ensure guests and visitors to the parliamentary complex have an enjoyable experience include Beverley Cathcart and Michelle Janse.

l offer a special thanks to the Leader of the House, Hon Dr Michael Cullen, and the Opposition Leader, Gerry Brownlee, to Leaders of all the parties in this House, their deputies, the party whips and their deputies. You have all contributed to the smooth operation of the business of the House, The life of a Whip is not an easy one so a special thanks to you.

I acknowledge also the work of all Members of Parliament who, despite enormous workloads, serve this House well.

I extend a personal thanks to my own staff; Pam, Roland, the two Roses and Nina. It would be impossible to do my job without you.

I know you are all anxious to leave and commence the democratic rite of electioneering so I shall not delay you any longer. As this is my last appearance in the role of Speaker may I thank all of you who have supported me in what may be described as one of the most difficult refereeing roles in the country.

Statistics for 2005- 2008 session as at 24 September:

Sitting days: 246

Calendar days: 258

Sitting hours: 1,486 hours 51 minutes

Bills passed:

Government bills: 329

Members' bills: 3

Local bills: 8

Private bills: 8

Questions asked:

Written questions:52,324

Oral questions: 2,844 (excluding supplementary questions)

Select committees:

Number of meetings: 313 (excludes September)

Hours of meeting: 883 hours 18 minutes (excludes September)

Number of reports: 242

Valedictory speech: Hon Margaret Wilson MP

25 September 2008

Mr/Madam Speaker, Members I thank you for the opportunity to make a few comments before I retire from Parliament. The valedictory speech is one of the few opportunities a Member has to speak freely in the House – though I feel compelled to note it must be within Standing Orders!

The final address is also the opportunity to reflect on your Parliamentary experience and acknowledge those who have supported you. If there is one lesson to be learnt in this institution it is that you are as good as your colleagues and your staff. I have been particularly fortunate to work with the Prime Minister Helen Clark whose leadership skills are unparalleled as is her lifetime commitment to service for the people of New Zealand. I shall have regarded myself fortunate to have worked with Michael Cullen as a Cabinet colleague who could never find enough money for my portfolios but who treated my colleagues in much the same way. As the economy goes through its normal cycles of boom and bust we have come to appreciate his prudent management. It is in his role as Leader of the House however that I greatly admire his skills. Leader of the House and for that matter Opposition Leader of the House are roles not understood by most people, yet it is their ability that determines Parliament runs in an orderly, if at times, contestable fashion. I thank them both.

I want to acknowledge my former Cabinet colleagues who provided tremendous support at all times. It is difficult for many people to understand the contestable environment that exists within a Cabinet or the pressure to perform in a timely fashion. It is a strong sense of a common purpose that ensures you stay together through good and bad times. The backbone of support however comes from the caucus that is ever ready to challenge and keep you in touch with reality. Parliament could not function without the commitment to the Select Committee work that is undertaken almost entirely by Members and not Ministers. In this respect I wish to acknowledge Tim Barnett who chaired the Justice and Electoral Select Committee when I was a Minister. He always pushed the envelope beyond my comfort zone, but he was always ready to work to ensure an acceptable solution was found.

If the support of colleagues is essential so is the support from staff. I was blessed with a group of amazing people who worked tirelessly to ensure I could do my job. Mike Fokker and Rose Rigarlsford both deserve specific mention because they made sure my diary and I were always coordinated. This was not always an easy task.

My communication staff worked miracles to ensure the intent of the policies were communicated if not always well received or understood. It is not an easy job. Crowd control which is not normally in a communications job description has been part of the reality of my current communications advisor Rose Hart.

The role of political advisor is an equally difficult one also but I was fortunate to have exceptional dedicated people who filled that role. It’s a difficult one because they often cop criticism directed at me but always remained focussed on our goal and played a big role in whatever policy success I achieved.

As a Minister and a Speaker you are also as good as the advice you get from the public officials. I had the privilege of working with some exceptional people whose professionalism and commitment to the public service is something we should all be grateful for. I must also thank them for their patience. I know I was considered by some as the Minister from hell because of the pace I set but I appreciated their dedication to the public service. I was given some very good advice by a very senior public official shortly after I was elected to Cabinet. It was simply - not to waste any time as it passed all too quickly. He is a wise man, to whom I shall always be grateful. The last 9 years have gone very quickly.

I shall acknowledge elsewhere the invaluable service members of the Clerk’s Office and the Parliamentary Service have given to me as Speaker and the Parliament as a whole.

I also want to thank and acknowledge the people of Tauranga who have supported me over the past 9 years. Tauranga cannot be called a Labour strong hold or even a marginal seat. It is a city I have worked hard for however and must acknowledge and thank Smartgrowth and the Mayors of Tauranga City and Western Bays, and the Chair of Environment Bay of Plenty for their commitment to the region. I have greatly valued the opportunity to work with them for the good of the community as a whole. As I shall continue to live in Tauranga I shall watch its progress with interest.

Finally I want to say a sincere heartfelt thank you to my family. They are not here today because as so often happens in political life family and political diaries just cannot be coordinated. I know however they will be viewing this address, and judging it in the comfort of their homes. The struggle to televise Parliament almost seems worth it on occasions such as this. They will see the unedited version. Their unconditional love and support, and advice especially from my parents, have kept me sane and given me the strength to see the job through to the end. Thank you.

When preparing this valedictory I went back to look at my maiden speech. I wanted to see if I had in fact achieved the goals I had set out. I realise however it is for others to make that assessment. I am satisfied though that given the necessary democratic constraints of coalition government, that little time was wasted. More importantly, I think my colleagues and I have achieved a better policy balance that has recognised the need for a strong public service infrastructure. The market will always have a proper role in the economy, but it must be balanced by democratic government. The current financial crisis has demonstrated the truth of this reality. Part of the reconstruction of that public service infrastructure has been a strengthening of such institutions as unions, NGOs, and lobby groups that now demand the right to participate in the decisions that affect them. How to find better ways for such participation will be the challenge for Parliaments in the future.

I noted in my maiden speech a concern for the rights of women. The struggle for equality has been a main thread throughout my life. It cannot be denied that progress has been made. It also cannot be denied that progress has come with women adapting to the system. There is still no fundamental recognition that equality means equality of difference, not equality for women to be like men. This will be the next major challenge. Can the experience of women be incorporated in such a way that they have real choices which extend beyond survival within a system still controlled by the male experience? A practical example is the way we organise the business of Parliament. We have made progress here by trying to accommodate school holidays and we now at last have a room for breast feeding and a child care centre. All good progress but we have not fundamentally looked at a work/life balance that would benefit both women and men. That is one of those big scary ideas we have yet to have the courage to face.

I must also note that Parliament is a long way from being representative while it remains so hard for people with disabilities to work here. People are helpful and that is always appreciated but it is real change that is required. I have tried to ensure those with hearing impairment will get some relief with the new sound system. The price for working in this wonderful old building however is that those with disabilities come through the back door or struggle with heavy doors that are likely to bite off your fingers. Again we adapt to the institution, which is yet to fundamentally recognise the need for change.

Finally I want to make a few comments on Parliament and my role as Speaker. Over the three years I have held the role I have formed some views on the role and on Parliament. As Speaker you get little opportunity to actually speak otherwise you are accused of participating in the debate. I have tried to maintain an uncharacteristic restraint and confined my comments to ‘order’ and ‘would the Member please leave the Chamber’. I therefore thought I would share a few reflections on the role.

First I want to thank those who supported me in the role. Apart from the two Roses in my office, Roland, Pam and Nina ensure the business of Parliament is conducted in a friendly orderly way. The Clerk and her office ensure the business of Parliament is conducted in an impartial and efficient manner. Perhaps the highest compliment that can be made of the office is that their advice can be relied on. I want also to acknowledge those unsung heroes of the House, the Serjeant-at-Arms and his army of messengers who ensure Members are well watered and their notes to each other are delivered.

The role of Speaker has given me a unique opportunity to understand better what it is that makes our democratic form of government work. I thank you for that privilege. I have endeavoured in the role to achieve two things - make Parliament more accessible and to make the administration of Parliament more transparent and efficient. The televising of Parliament was an important part of this project and it still has a long way to go to reach its full potential. We are visited by thousands every year and the education, tour and security staff all do a wonderful job making that a positive experience. We need to invest more in the promotion of Parliament as an institution. There are so many creative ways we can introduce Parliament to the people and the people to Parliament.

The task of transparency and efficiency was thrust on me soon after I took up the office and resulted from accusations by some Members that I was corrupt. I have written fully in another place about my journey of discovery into the administration of Parliament and the role of the Speaker so will not repeat myself here. After three years of work however I believe much progress has been made though much work must still be done. I have confidence it will be done with the support of Members who recognise we must also be accountable.

I will end however on an observation about the notion of the independence of the Speaker. I am frequently asked this question – how can a Speaker be independent and a member of a Party? This question is normally in the context of question time. I long ago realised that you are seen as fair and impartial if you agree with the Member raising a point order, which is usually not a point of order. Like any referee I agree you cannot win and must do the best you can. I must say however that most referees have a range of greater penalties than any Speaker has to exercise. All Speakers face similar problems but MMP has increased the complexity of the job. I shall resist the temptation to comment on the behaviour of Members towards each other or the Speaker.

The public does notice however and lets me know daily what they think. This is why a greater understanding of Parliament would benefit everyone. As I have said on many occasions question time is not truth seeking – that is done through written questions and the official information requests. Question time is about political performance. It is a testing of political positions and the ability of individuals to stand up to the test. It is important and I have no doubt it could be conducted in a less abusive manner but that is in the hands of Members. If I had enforced the Standing Orders strictly the House would have been half empty and the game would have taken three times as long.

We should be grateful however that we are the beneficiaries of such an accountable democratic Parliament. It is the obligation and responsibility on each of us who has the privilege of serving in this House to maintain and enhance our Parliament in whatever role we find ourselves because each role is important.

I am pleased to be leaving to undertake a new challenge but do not regret a minute of the opportunity I have been given to serve.

Thank you

Inaugural Shirley Smith lecture

Women-in-Law Committee, Wellington District Law Society

18 September 2008, 6.10 pm

May I thank the Wellington Women Lawyers for the invitation to deliver the Inaugural Shirley Smith Lecture. I regard it as a privilege to be asked to speak in honour of such a distinguished woman, lawyer and citizen. It is difficult to describe how important her example was to so many women entering the legal profession in the 1960s. In 1966, when she was practising law in Wellington, I was one of six young women who entered law school in Auckland. While I did not immediately register the significance of such a large intake of women, (6 out of about 200) it was not long before it had been carefully explained to me that it was highly unusual for women to embark on such a course of study. The comment was also made that if I was lucky enough to get a job, it was such a pity that it would be only in a government department. As I had chosen the study of law to get a job it sounded rather good to me. I totally missed the implied put down, which displayed a provincial naivety that has stood me in good stead for much of my life.

Shirley Smith of course not only had her own practice but she appeared in court, almost unheard of at the time. I recall my first appearance in the then Supreme Court and being kindly counselled that I should try to get in the front row (it was divorce day) because it was well known women’s voices do not carry. I thought I am sure Shirley Smith would have been heard. Of course, given my current role the thought of my voice not being heard is somewhat ironic.

While role model was not a phrase much used then, she epitomised the hope and possibility of women practising in all facets of the law. She not only practised law but also she challenged the profession and the legal system to recognise the rights of women and those who lacked access to law. It is hard to describe the importance of women such as Shirley Smith not only to women entering the legal profession but to the development of our legal system. She was one of those warrior lawyers who struggle to ensure everyone got a fair hearing when pursuing or defending their legal rights.

I confess to undergoing a struggle myself when preparing this lecture. When thinking about what I wanted to say I realised I had several competing ideas that needed to be melded into a coherent presentation. There are two matters however that have recurred for me throughout my legal and political life. They are the importance of the rights of women being recognised legally and politically, and secondly the fundamental importance of the principles of natural justice being adhered to in all circumstances. For me these two matters underpin the legitimacy of our democratic system of government.

I am not sure I have succeeded in the lecture in developing a coherent argument that incorporates these issues. It may therefore be more accurate to describe what follows as some reflections on 30 years of struggle in pursuit of the elusive goal of equality for women. After being a somewhat naïve activist law student in the 1960s, I pursued a career through the teaching and the practice of law, while maintaining a political activism until I entered Parliament in 1999 and became a full time politician. I have been incredibly fortunate to work in so many different sites of struggle for women’s rights and to work with so many women and men who shared the same aspirations. In this journey I have learnt a great deal and not surprisingly developed a few firm views. One of those views is the fundamental importance of the rule of law and the legal system to our democratic political process.

Like most of us I have taken for granted that I live in a country where the rule of law and democratic representative government are taken as the norm. Recently however I have developed an increasing concern that all may not share my confidence. I am beginning to see an insidious undermining of those institutions that underpin our way of life. I do not believe this is due to any great conspiracy but more to the fact that we live in an age when the pre-eminence of the economy is shaping our relationship to institutions such as the law and government. The value of everything is coming to be assessed more in economic terms than any other. The recent book of Robert Reich Supercapitalism (2008) is an excellent analysis of this trend and a plea for a re-assertion of the importance of democratic government for the well being of society as a whole.

I want to begin this talk then by stating that it was of some concern when I read the recent Research New Zealand polling that showed 62% of New Zealanders do not have full trust and confidence in the justice system. [1]   On one level this result was not a surprise because there is little tolerance from a growing section of the community for due process being accorded to those who fall foul of the criminal law. A quick scan of media headline would also convince you that we live in an increasingly lawless society.

The fact that the statistics show a different picture quickly becomes irrelevant in the court of public opinion. [2]   This is not surprising given that people do fear for their safety and it is a fundamental obligation of any state to ensure that security. Not to deliver law and order will lead to a breakdown in society where citizens will take the law into their own hands and violence becomes the norm. There are too many examples of this happening in other countries for us not to understand the risks.

I do not believe New Zealand is anywhere close to that state of affairs. The researchers themselves stressed that ‘full trust and confidence’ does not mean no confidence. The survey did show however that 75% of respondents thought criminal sentences were too soft and 48% supported capital punishment. The lobby groups who advocate these policies are well organised and politically and media astute. It is their right to put their views before the community. There is no obligation however for the media to report the facts and explore the consequences of such policies. That is why strong advocates are required to constantly explain the importance of the rule of law and the fact it is not a vague notion but that it provides the support of all citizens’ human rights. There has been a tendency to equate human rights with political correctness. Yet those who pontificate about political correctness are the beneficiaries of adherence to a human rights regime.

Although the survey related only to the criminal law, I have wondered how much confidence people have in our civil law system. Observing the struggle for compensation over leaky building disputes and the recent collapse of finance companies, I sense a growing concern about the capacity of the legal system to deliver, not only the remedy they seek, but the process to pursue a remedy. I use the term legal system here to include not only the law, but the courts, the bureaucracy and the profession. I want to return later to the problems arising out of the conflict between the need for due process and the need for justice to be timely and efficient.

I wish now however to discuss some of the issues and questions that arose when in the 1970s, 1980s and 1990s women challenged the legal and political systems to recognise and include them. [3]   I see this struggle as an example of how change is possible through participation in the democratic process, even if it is very slow at times. I also came to realise as I wrote this talk that equality for women is only possible through a viable active democratic system of government hence my advocacy for it to be supported.

From time to time in recent history movements have arisen to promote the equality of women. New Zealand was the beneficiary of such a movement in the 1890s when it resulted in women being given the right to vote. Another such time was the 1960s and 1970s when the post World War Two generation of women asserted their right to equality. It was an important time for so many women who experienced their life opportunities being curtailed simply because they had been born a woman. It seemed so fundamentally unfair and undemocratic that for some us there seemed no option but to try and change the system that supported this discrimination.

What strikes me when I reflect on my involvement in the campaigns for women’s rights in the 1970s is that my focus was on changing the law to provide women with rights and remedies. I was aware not all feminists pursued a strategy of working within the system because their analysis demonstrated the fundamental social, economic and cultural factors that denied women full equality. I had much sympathy with this analysis and still do. It seemed to me however that there was an obligation to at least try to work through the system, which for me meant the legal and political system, until it was obvious no progress could be made. In other words we were testing the democratic process to see if it could deliver true equality for women.

Whether it has or has not delivered is a serious question that deserves consideration. The answer for individual women will depend on their individual life experience to some extent. For me looking at the changes over the past 30 years, I think it is fair to say that real progress has been made but we still have a way to go. I believe that there has been progress in the formal legal recognition of the rights of women, but that in reality women are now squarely facing the underlying structural barriers to full equality. It is fair to note that from the outset we were aware legal change was not the total answer. It had to be supported by an attitudinal change, and more importantly social and economic policies to ensure the law was implemented as intended.

The agenda for change was set out in the 1975 Select Committee Report on the Role of Women in New Zealand Society. It identified equal employment opportunity, matrimonial property, access to finance, the rape laws, and contraception sterilisation and abortion as arenas for change. These were the issues identified by women and their organizations such as the Campaign Against Discrimination. Interestingly violence experienced by women was not identified. I suspect this was because the issue was still too personal and difficult to articulate in the Select Committee process.

The Select Committee provided the first opportunity for women to learn about political lobbying. We learnt to prepare and to present submissions to Parliament. Much of the research for those submissions was provided by the work of the Society for the Research on Women. It played a significant role in preparing the rational reasoned arguments for those of us who then took them into the social and political marketplace. It was during this time we formed the Women and the Law Research Foundation that provided information, research and assisted women with accessing the political process to lobby for change. We lobbied, we argued, we demonstrated and eventually we realised we needed to be where the decisions were made – the Parliament, the courts, the practices, the classrooms. Good argument and research alone did not guarantee action.

The campaigns of the 1960s and 1970s were about creating the community awareness and acceptance of the need for change. The United Women’s Conventions of the 1970s played a significant role. The Conventions held over a decade in different cities gave the opportunity for women to come together to share their experiences and to develop a programme and a strategy for change. It must be noted there were many differences expressed passionately and not always rationally.

I recall being asked to speak at the first Convention on women and employment and to convene workshops on women and the law. I had no idea of the significance of that gathering or how challenging it would be for me personally. For example I vividly recall being confronted by two women demanding to know whose rights should prevail on the breakdown of a marriage – the first or the second wife. Nothing in law school had prepared me to answer this question. The experience however provoked me to look at matrimonial property rights in a new way.

The Conventions were also about women learning how the legal and political system worked. On reflection I see that all this activity displayed a confidence in our democratic system that it would eventually produce the justice sought. We understood that societal change and political struggle had to precede legal change. We were prepared to put the work in to affect that change. To be honest however, I doubt any of us thought it would take over 30 years of action to achieve what we have today.

Much of the effectiveness of the campaigns relied on an analysis of the precise nature of the issue and the most effective means for addressing it. For example, there could be no solution to unequal pay for women unless it was accepted that pay rates were determined within the context of the then industrial conciliation and arbitration system. A law change alone would therefore affect little unless union and employer advocates were prepared to ensure the law was enforced. Even with those conditions, it became obvious that the real problem was that the work women undertook was undervalued in the economy. Further the labour market was unprepared to cope with the reality of the rhythm of women’s working lives, in particular their child care responsibilities. These are the underlying structural issues that still remain today.

The struggle to integrate pay equity into the labour market failed in the face of the neo-liberal economic policies of the 1990s. The failure of the pay equity initiatives demonstrated that women were not central to the economic system. We had always been a dispensable surplus workforce and there was no support to change that in the 1990s. This meant that a new strategy had to be developed which did not attack the issue of value head-on but which addressed the factors that contributed to the undervaluing of women’s work. These factors most often related to the fact that women’s life experience is different from that of men in some fundamental respects.

The struggle has been to get not only the law to recognise that equality before the law requires an acknowledgement of difference, but then to get those who interpret or apply the law to recognise the equality of difference. Equal employment opportunity, paid parental leave, flexible working hours, the right to breast feed at work, work/life balance were amongst the policies that were now pursued in law and practice.

I have a concern that these policies have had some measure of success because we have had a policy of full employment and not because there is an acceptance of the rights of women’s difference. In other words the conditions were right because there was a need for women’s labour. The true test of these policies will lie in whether they survive a period of high unemployment. And this will depend on whether the economic necessity is supported by a fundamental shift in social and cultural attitudes.

When devising the strategy for employment equity, I recognised the legal system was not equipped to deal with systemic discrimination. It was unrealistic to expect the courts to deliver a change of this nature. The courts were best equipped to deal with individual disputes, for example, who was entitled to what property on the breakdown of a marriage. I must note however when attempts were made to change the law to ensure women’s non-financial contribution to matrimonial property was recognised, both the bureaucracy and the courts were very reluctant again to acknowledge the value of women’s work.

The struggle around women’s matrimonial property rights has clearly identified that the legal system is still much more comfortable in enforcing financial value, normally associated with the exchange of money and not non-financial services. The fact that men have been associated with financial exchanges and women with non-financial service exchange has lead to the development of the law through the male experience. What women have been seeking again is that women’s experience should be equally recognised by the law as of value. In other words, for the law to be truly equal it must acknowledge the difference of women. It is the social and cultural imbedding of the notion of traditional roles for men and women that has made political and legal change so difficult.

In my legal policy work it has also become obvious that the courts should not be viewed as instruments of social change. Their role is to enforce the law as enacted in legislation. Through the interpretation of the law, a common law is created that provides guidance to individuals who seek to know and enforce their legal rights and remedies. As it was unrealistic to expect the courts to deliver gender equality, it was important that those of us working on legal change in the 1970s devised a new legal instrument to redress systemic discrimination.

The Human Rights Commission emerged as the institution to achieve this goal. It was not the first choice however. We had examined overseas statutory models and judged that Australia had the best legislation to address sex discrimination. We also sought an institution that would provide an individual remedy while also addressing structural systemic discrimination against women. We knew it was impossible to mount a class action in the courts so were trying to find a way where the new institution would accommodate such an approach.

A change of government in 1975 ensured there was no body to deal specifically with sex discrimination. The notion of human rights was used to neutralise the demands of women at the time. The Commission had jurisdiction over discrimination on the grounds of sex, marital status, religious and ethical belief – a limited notion of human rights. The fact that the Commission was reluctant to pursue sex and marital status discrimination against women and concentrated on religious discrimination meant it lost the confidence of many women for some years. I confess that after my first meeting with the Commission, I wondered if the struggle was worth it.

There is not time to traverse the history of the Commission except to note that it was an important first step from which we were able over a period of time to build an institutional base that directly addressed the issue of discrimination against women. It should be acknowledged however that it was the recognition of women’s rights as being human rights in the 1990s that gave new energy to the campaign for women’s rights. Participation in international conferences such as the Beijing International Women’s Conference enabled the campaign for women’s rights to be sustained during a particularly bleak period. And the Human Rights Commission today comes close to the model that was sought in the 1970s, in that it not only provides for the redress of individual complaints but pursues an active campaign to protect and advance women’s rights in the context of human rights. It is not so easy now to isolate and ignore the rights of women.

Time was lost in the 1970s and 1980s however though experience was gained. It became clear to me at that time that I needed more experience in legal institutional design if the right formula could be found to provide a real remedy for women. It was why I fought so strongly for issues relating to maternity leave, that arose from the Maternity Leave and Employment Protection Act 1978, being heard in the then Industrial Court. It seemed that that court had a greater understanding of the realities of the workplace and therefore may have a greater chance of enforcing the limited rights they gained under that Act. For me also that experience taught me the power and influence of the bureaucracy and how difficult it was for women outside the public service and politics to have any influence on the form and shape of legislation. I learnt that the devil really does lie in the detail.

It was during this period of the 1980s I committed to finding a pathway through the political process. One of the reasons for the commitment was a realisation that single issue lobby groups and organizations took a great deal of energy and were difficult to sustain. There was little financial support and too few people to do the work. Working for women through the Labour Party seemed a logical extension of the NGO work in which I had been involved. I, and others, had been part of a strategy to develop a women’s equality policy and also to promote women into political decision-making positions.

The policy work resulted in the 1984 Women’s Equality Policy of the Labour Party set out what in effect became the agenda for the next 20 years. It was during this period that I also learnt to live with contradiction in a real sense. While the government was pursuing a neo-liberal agenda we were pursuing an equality agenda. There is insufficient time to relate this story but the conclusion may be that you should never give up however difficult the task may be at the time. It also had confirmed for me that women had to be where decisions were made because their voice and vote counted.

It is true that women have learnt from experience and taken advantage of the opportunities that were not easily available to us 30 years ago. Women have entered the paid workforce in increasing numbers and are facing the daily struggle of balancing our paid and unpaid work in a world that in truth has changed little to accommodate this major social change. It is therefore time to reflect on exactly how much progress has been made and where do we go from here.

The reality is that while there is a perception that women have ‘made it’ the statistics tell a different story. The power of perception to undermine reality should never be underestimated. A good example of this is the way we are good at claiming ‘firsts’ into the resolution of the problem.

New Zealand has always been proud of being the first country to give women the right to vote. We were not the first however to give women the right to represent themselves in Parliament. That first belongs to Finland. It was also not until 1933 that the first woman Elizabeth McCombs was elected to Parliament, and it was not until the mid 1990s that women in any numbers were elected to Parliament – a hundred years after women got the vote. [4]  

Ethel Benjamin was our first woman admitted to the legal profession in 1897. [5]   Yet it took until the 1970s before women in any numbers started to enter the practice of law. [6]   Women were first appointed to the bench in 1975 with Augusta Wallace’s appointment to the District Court and 18 years later in 1993 Silvia Cartwright was appointed to the High Court. Both appointments were considered exceptional and coincided with International Women’s Year in 1975 and the Suffrage Centennial Year in 1993. I am pleased to say the events based approach to judicial appointment for women has not continued. It is obvious however there has been no floodgates principle operating as far as women entering the legal profession or the judiciary.

What is the position today? The Human Rights Commission has recently published a census of women’s participation in New Zealand society, including participation in the law. [7]   Women currently comprise 62% of the admissions to the profession but comprise only 41% of the legal profession. Only 16.8% are partners in large law firms, and 19.34% of the partners in firms of all sizes. 35% of barrister sole are women and of the 90 practising Queens Counsel, 11 are women. Women comprise 25.76% of judges with the highest percentage being appointed to the Family Court.

So what do these numbers tell us? It is obvious that some progress has been made over the past 110 years but that women are still a minority at all levels of the profession and the judiciary. Is this a cause for concern may be the next question? I would argue that it is. Apart from the waste of human potential and sense of loss of well being, the country suffers from the loss of talent and skills that women could contribute through their employment. I sometimes wonder when I hear the critiques of why New Zealand has such low productivity why there is no recognition of the harmful effects of discriminatory management practices.

The new challenge for women in legal practice would appear to lie in the current management practices of firms and appointment practices rather than changes to the law. In 2005 the New Zealand Law Society conducted a survey that sought to identify the key concerns of women practitioners. [8]   The four most significant concerns were reported as hours of work, professional support, advancement and salary. Men also expressed a concern about hours of work and salary but they did not have the same concerns around advancement or professional support. The Chief Justice in a recent address to the Australian Women Lawyers Conference discusses the current legal culture that inhibits the advancement of women in legal practice and the judiciary. [9]   She notes there is a reluctance to accommodate the needs of women and men who want different work patterns and styles. Even when there is an accommodation there remains a stigma attached to those who seek to be different.

Unfortunately there is another management practice that has failed to assist women and that is the notion of merit being the basis for appointment or advancement. I recall the debates around whether or not New Zealand should adopt affirmative action strategies in the 1970s and 1980s to redress the discrimination experienced by women. Those strategies were rejected and reliance was placed on a merit approach to ensure women were treated fairly. It was felt that the merit approach was fairer and would be more culturally acceptable. The problem with merit is that it is in the eye of the beholder and unless an incredibly professional process is undertaken, merit cannot be relied on to produce a fair outcome. Where there is a strong prevailing notion of what are the ‘right’ qualities for a position, it is difficult to introduce any change. I found this was particularly the case with judicial appointments and appointments to Queens Counsel.

I believe there is a fundamental clash between much of the current legal culture and the reality of women’s lives. I would note however there are a number of men who are also experiencing a similar frustration at the resistance to change. The question what is to be done? I do not have an answer though I hope to continue my work on this issue. What I do sense however is that there is a real shift within the community towards demanding a greater participation in the decisions that affect us. We are searching for new ways of organising our lives and governing ourselves. Women are seeking ways of work that enable a better balance in their lives. There is a greater sharing of roles between men and women. These initiatives are still taking place within the existing system however. There is still no real perceived need to radically change the way we do things. Difference is tolerated as long as it does not fundamentally interfere with existing practices.

I want to conclude with the thought that it is imperative that the changes within the society are reflected within the legal system. I note the new practices introduced by the Law Society to better recognise the needs of clients to be well informed, and to better supervise the quality of the provision of legal services. I also note attempts to ensure judicial and quasi-judicial bodies to be more representative of the community they serve. These are all important measures. I would argue however that there is a need to review the means by which we resolve disputes and administer the justice system. It is not just a question of more money for legal aid, better court facilitates and more judges though I understand such measures would undoubtedly be of assistance.

It is a question of ensuring that due process and the principles of natural justice that are the foundations of the rule of law are designed to deliver justice in a timely manner and a way that meets the needs of those who seek justice. The increasing procedural complexity of our litigation processes is in danger of strangling the life out of this form of dispute resolution for all but the rich. I sometimes wonder if we have become so risk adverse that we are not really serving our clients. I am very much aware however of the financial risks for practitioners of not covering all contingencies. Just as I am aware that issues involving the Bill of Rights require exhaustive testing in the courts. The question may be does every dispute require this attention. I am not suggesting there are easy answers however.

It is time to think creatively about how the system can better serve the needs of people so we can ensure any future surveys convey higher confidence levels in the legal system. I know such means are available, as I have had the opportunity when I was a Minister to test them in some areas such as employment, building, and human rights disputes processes. [10]   Greater use of both mediation and adjudication should be explored. Often what is required is an experienced practitioner to weigh the arguments and work with the parties to a solution that meets their needs. Of course this will not work in all cases and access to the courts should never be denied. Some clients require the full litigation for legal or personal reasons. There should be choices however.

There is not time to pursue these matters in this lecture but I am sure Shirley Smith would have had a great deal to say about them. She believed passionately in the rule of law, as I do and I am sure you all do also. The continuance of the rule of law will be one of the main challenges for us in the future. Our democratic system of government depends on the maintenance of confidence in the rule of law and our legal system. As a profession we have a particular responsibility in this task. We will be unable to meet that challenge unless as a profession and a judiciary we are inclusive and representative of our community and that is why it is vital women can fully participate at all levels and in all facets of the legal system.

Thank you.

  1. Research New Zealand – Media Release 22 August 2008 – www.researchnz.com   [back]
  2. New Zealand Crimes Statistics 2007, Office of the Police Commissioner   [back]
  3. For a fuller discussion of this issue see “Towards a Feminist Jurisprudence in Aotearoa” chapter in Feminist Voices, ed Rosemary Du Plessis, (1992) Oxford University Press; and “Employment Equity Act 1990: A Case Study in Women’s Political Influence 1984-1990” chapter in Controlling Interests: Business,State and Society in New Zealand, ed Deek and Perry, (1992) Auckland University Press.   [back]
  4. Wilson, Margaret “Woman and Politics” chapter in Miller, New Zealand Government and Politics, Oxford University Press, 2001, 375-383   [back]
  5. Mossman, Mary Jane, “Ethel Benjamin Commemorative Address 2007” (2008) Otago Law Review, Vol 11, No4, 585-601.   [back]
  6. Gatfield, Gill, Without Prejudice: Women and the Law, (1996) Brookers.   [back]
  7. New Zealand Census of Women’s Participation 2008, Human Rights Commission, 2008.   [back]
  8. New Zealand Law Society Women’s Consultative Group (WCG )Women Lawyer’s Survey www.lawyers.org.nz/wcg/statistices.asp   [back]
  9. Dame Sian Elias, Chief Justice, Address to the Australian Women Lawyers’ conference, Melbourne, June 2008.   [back]
  10. See Employment Relations Act 200 and Human Rights Act 1993 dispute resolution procedures.   [back]

The role of the Speaker and the relevance of Parliament

Leadership NZ

Select Committee Room 3, Parliament House

18 September 2008

It is with great pleasure that I welcome you here today. I find it particularly rewarding to know that leaders such as yourselves take time out from your roles for professional development. Not only that, I am impressed, and relieved, that you recognise the importance of understanding this place called ‘Wellington’ – with all its processes, formality and indeed a person called Madam Speaker.

I understand that many of you come from commercial environments. And I know that in your worlds, politics is often a distant, strange and irrelevant sideshow.

But beyond the sideshows, are the processes of law-making and governing. And it is these processes that can reach very quickly into commercial boardrooms and impact directly on business. This is why ‘Wellington’ is important for you, as leaders, to know and understand.

It is from the Parliament – the House of Representatives, that a Government or Executive is formed. And it is the Parliament’s role to make new laws, update old laws and examine and approve Government taxes and spending. Parliament’s role is to hold the Government to account for its policies and its actions.

At its heart it represents the people. It is here that the issues of the day and the concerns of the nation are aired – be they the death of Sir Edmund Hillary, the great feats of our Olympians or a failure in our 111 system.

As Speaker of the House of Representatives, I perform a number of roles.

There is a ceremonial role – it is the Speaker who represents the House in communications with the Crown. The Speaker also chairs meetings of the House, chairs three Parliamentary Select Committees and is the effective landlord of Parliament’s buildings.

It is as the chair of meetings of the House that the Speaker is most often seen at work. It is the Speaker who ensures the rules of the House, called Standing Orders, are being observed correctly.

It is a tough and rigorous role. I must confess that I am looking forward to the days, in the not too distant future, when I will no longer have to call for ‘order.’

Like all roles involving leadership it is not an easy one and it is open to constant challenge. It is in such circumstances that the qualities of leadership are so important.

I recently spoke to a Commerce Commission conference on the subject of leadership. Given that the Commission is an official entity but acutely relevant to business, I thought my comments on leadership to that audience may interest you.

Leadership is a key focus of the Commission’s Statement of Intent for 2008-2011. Underpinning its leadership strategy are the core values of the Commission - integrity, responsibility, and respect. Independence, professionalism and transparency underlie those core values.

I agree with this approach to leadership. But for me, it must at all times be supported by communications.

I am aware there is much criticism of the role of communication in the public sector. I see good communication as essential to an understanding of the role of the Commerce Commission, and in fact, the wider public service. If education has a role in leadership then communication is essential to that process. We live in a world where unfortunately perception is often taken for, or even worse, becomes reality. Good professional communications ensure an accurate message is conveyed to an audience that can comprehend it. Maybe it is the teacher in me talking here, but leadership is about the ability to communicate. Of course good communication can only work if there is a clearly thought through message, which simply means there is no substitute for knowing what you are talking about.

The invitation to talk to you today suggested I might speak on my own experience of leadership.

I must observe at the outset that leadership was not a notion I entertained when I was younger. This was not only because women did not have public leadership roles, unless it was to reinforce the ideal of women as wife and mother. It was also because leadership was associated with an institutional role. Those who held public office were automatically accorded a status that was supported by the institution. The churches also provided a leadership in a way that is no longer apparent. Business leaders were identified with an established company or more likely an entrenched lobby group – Federated Farmers, the Employers’ Federation. Leadership in sport was more individualistic unless you captained the All Blacks, when then as now, the well being of the psych of the nation seemed to depend on you. Judges, academics, teachers, doctors were associated with a professional leadership that depended on the status of their profession, though their influence in the community extended beyond their profession.

I was part of that generation that questioned the authority and therefore the status of those institutions. I doubt we really knew what we were doing except we wanted things to change. For many of us it was about gaining opportunities denied to previous generations. The opportunities afforded through education provided a pathway which we took advantage of in large numbers. The leadership given by the established institutions no longer held the same authority. Individualism became a new form of leadership, as the freedom to experiment was given to the post World War II generation.

The changes in technology provided access to many to influence many more. Post modernism questioned the sense in trusting anyone or anything and contributed to the decline of traditional leadership institutions and models. The neo-liberal policies of the 1980s and 1990s further undermined trust in political institutions, and without trust it is difficult to have leadership. It also broke the trust in the market for a generation and impeded New Zealand’s investment growth. Without acknowledged institutions to provide leadership, individuals had to rely on those qualities themselves.

I observed that during the 90s there appeared a renewed interest in leadership, often led by the business schools and their publications. This literature has increased, as have the number of leadership courses and programmes. The vacuum left by the churches, political institutions, and the professions is being filled by what may be termed the democratisation of leadership. The emphasis is now on the qualities of leadership and not on the position or status of leadership. I consider this a positive development. It is positive because hopefully it means more people will understand not only the qualities of leadership but also the responsibilities that accompany the exercise of that leadership. Increasingly leadership qualities are recognised at all levels of an organisation. This approach recognises that leadership is relevant throughout the organization and does not reside in one person or group.

While I have lived through this changing notion of leadership, I confess I was unaware of it. Leadership was not a role I sought or even considered. The reason is simple. I was still working within the traditional paradigm of leadership, namely, that it existed only within the traditional institutions. It was apparent early in my career that there were few opportunities for women in law or academia. In a way that was liberating because you had little to lose by pursuing your own path. You took risks because there was less to lose.

I explored the use of the media to communicate a point of view that was not generally accepted – whether it was on the rights of workers or equal opportunities for women. I learnt there were consequences for disturbing the status quo but because there was so little to lose the opinions and threats of others, while noted, did not deter. I did not consider myself in a leadership role and this was partly because I had little accountability. I had a professional responsibility to express views that were factual and defensible, but I answered to nobody but myself. It was not until I stood for a position on the Labour Party’s policy council that I had a representative role that required a responsibility to report to others, and to reflect their views. In a sense I was undertaking a traditional leadership role. It was not only responsibility for me but for others. I learnt enormously through those Party roles that included Junior Vice President and President. Mostly I learnt the responsibility of leadership. I also learnt that without trust it is impossible to undertake a leadership role effectively. This meant trusting me and trusting others. I learnt an essential element of trust was acting with integrity and expecting others to do the same.

When I was appointed foundation Dean of the Waikato University School of Law, I learnt a different form of leadership. Whereas a political party requires a high level of discipline and accountability to a range of different people within the organization, the university operates differently. There is a greater level of autonomy without the necessary support. Perhaps the best advice I got was that there was no point seeking advice on what was permissible or not, I should just do it and I would be told if I got it wrong. I do not recommend this form of management but am sure it has changed.

I would rate the experience as Dean my most difficult and testing time in a leadership role. When I was hired the University had $10 million to fund the School, and within the first six months I had hired a dozen staff and received applications from over 1000 students seeking one of the 190 places. With the change of government at the end of 1990, the $10 million budget disappeared and it was made clear by the government that the project should not proceed. With the support of the Vice Chancellor at the time, we decided it should proceed. The demand was there and while it would be hard without the capital fund, we still had an income stream so decided to continue on. I would rate that one of my tougher decisions because it would have been so easy to walk away with a redundancy payment. It just did not seem the right thing to do and once we worked out it could still be financially viable, we proceeded and the School is thriving today.

Perhaps an even harder decision during that period was writing the prescription for the degree programme and arguing for its approval by the Council of Legal Education, on which sat all the School’s competitors. Unfortunately there was no Commerce Commission to appeal to at that time, though I recall threatening such an action at one point. What I learnt through that process however was to rely on the leadership of others who supported the project and skilfully helped me present and argue the case.

It is difficult for me to talk about my experience as a Minister while I have my current role. I can say that it presented many challenges from which I learnt a great deal about others and myself. As a Cabinet Minister you have a collective responsibility, so you have the task of not only exercising leadership qualities in your own areas of responsibility, but also often trying to persuade your colleagues to your point of view. I also learnt that through listening to others it is possible to find a new approach without compromising your principles or policy commitments. In this context, leadership was often exercised through finding a solution to a problem and then making it happen.

The role of Speaker has produced a different set of challenges. It is a role that has all the responsibility but none of the supports other Members of Parliament have access to. Leadership is exercised through one’s own authority and the goodwill of Members. While in leadership terms, the role of Speaker ranks third in terms of constitutional status, its authority and status is dependent on the respect with which the public hold the institution of Parliament. In my time as Speaker I have endeavoured to make the Parliament more accessible through the televising of Parliament, and through ensuring its administrative processes are efficient and transparent.

Again I come back to communication.

The more people who understand that Parliament is more than question time, the greater awareness will be of how fortunate we are as a people to have such a democratic representative decision making institution. It is easy to take for granted how accountable our Parliament is compared with many others.

In conclusion I would note that I am often asked if there is a difference between male and female leadership. This is a subject that requires more attention than I can give it today. I would observe however that I do not think the qualities for leadership are different but the way leadership is exercised is often different. We are all influenced by our environment and experience. Men and women are seen and are treated differently. This is often unconscious and frequently denied but in my experience is true. It appears to be no longer fashionable to examine seriously gender difference. I think this is a mistake because we need to fully understand and celebrate the difference. In the context of leadership, there is no one form or expression of leadership. Different situations require different leadership. We need to concentrate on what is required for the position, not on whether a man or a woman has the right leadership skills. It is our lack of understanding of the requirements of leadership that inhibits women being able to fully contribute to institutional leadership. In a country of just over four million people, we cannot afford to be blinkered to the full participation of women in all roles including leadership.

May I thank you for the opportunity to address you today. May I also challenge you to continue your engagement with this Parliament and in your pursuit of good leadership.

Speech to launch the book Parliament’s Library – to mark the 150th anniversary of the Parliamentary Library

Grand Hall, Parliament Buildings, Wellington

6.15pm Wednesday 10 September 2008

Former Speakers of the House and chairs of the Library Committee,

The Honourable Jonathan Hunt and the Honourable Doug Kidd.

Members of Parliament.

Clerk of the House, Mary Harris and her predecessor David McGee.

General Manager of Parliamentary Service, Geoff Thorn and his predecessors Peter Brookes and John O’Sullivan.

Senior public servants, the library community, parliamentary staff and distinguished guests.

We are here this evening for one of Parliament’s special occasions that serves to remind us all of the great vision, commitment and belief our forebears had in this institution.

This month marks the 150th anniversary of the appointment of the Parliamentary Library’s first librarian. Captain F.E Campbell, Clerk of the House, was appointed librarian on the 20th of September 1858. Ever since that time, the Parliamentary Library has played a vital role in supporting representative and parliamentary democracy.

Since 1858 the Parliamentary Library’s role has been to provide information to Parliament.

However, not quite as we know it today.

In its early days it was more of a private gentleman’s Library with open fires, writing desks, comfy chairs and a liberal attitude to smoking indoors.

Through the 19th and 20th centuries the Library became a true treasure house including rare books and artworks. I note that it took until the end of the 19th century for the Library to be housed in a fire-resistant building.

Having information in the Library was never enough – parliamentarians needed the assistance of experts to retrieve accurate information efficiently and promptly.

I expect that over a century and a half the idea of promptness has changed significantly. Today a Member may not simply require accurate and impartial information but he or she may require it in 10 minutes flat.

And I can say that the 60 full-time library staff with specialist research and analytical skills regularly deliver in that time frame, as well as with extended searches which can take weeks. As many as 15-hundred searches are completed every month.

However, given my time in the Chair, I can vouch for the fact that the Library is no longer asked, as it was in the past, for fine literature and classical references to embellish Members speeches.

A 150 year tradition of providing top-quality information is both a responsibility and a challenge for those who have built on the early ambitions for the Parliamentary Library.

It is the book we launch today that chronicles the challenge that our librarians have met and continue to meet.

These challenges have been enormous. During its 150 years the Library has survived shipwreck, fires and destruction by water. I can only imagine the heartbreak librarians have suffered over the years.

Today we are joined by retired Chief Librarians Hillas MacLean and Ian Matheson and former acting Parliamentary Librarian Ruth MacEachern. It is thanks to your efforts and dedication and that of your colleagues that we have the Library we have today.

Over the years, my colleagues have acknowledged the work of the Library.

In 2000, my predecessor Jonathan Hunt described the Library as the “best of its type in the Commonwealth.” [1]   In that same year MP Jill Pettis urged her colleagues to use the Library saying “it is free and the library staff are always very happy to be helpful.” [2]  

MP the Honourable Richard Prebble acknowledged this in 2003 when he referred to research he commissioned from the Library over the summer. He described it as a “very reliable and reputable source.” [3]  

To maintain this reputation, the Library has had to move with the times.

Our current Parliamentary Librarian, Moira Fraser, has overseen a rapid transformation in the last few years.

Thanks to Google we can all sit at our desks and undertake our own research. It is when we get stuck that we now turn to the expertise of the Parliamentary Library.

Under Moira’s leadership the Parliamentary Library has positioned itself for the 21st century and the demands and expectations of Members.

The Library is now an electronic powerhouse working in all fields of the media.

Housed in a splendid Gothic building it is a wonderful blend of past, present and future. Analysts and researchers undertake detailed searches through the world’s best data bases while surrounded by handsome leather-bound and gilt embossed books lined up on historic steel shelving.

The book launched today captures this history and sense of evolution.

Parliament’s Library – 150 years has been written by Parliamentary Historian Dr John E Martin. I congratulate you and the library staff on this publication.

This book conveys the struggles involved in advancing the library. For anyone with an interest in the history of our country, in Parliament and in books it cleverly draws you in with a rich mix of images and stories. But as we would expect of Dr Martin and our library, all this is supported by facts and fine detail.

The book is complemented by a pull-out timeline which captures the history of the Library in four visually appealing pages.

It is a fitting commemoration of the Library’s 150 years. And it leaves me wondering just how our Parliamentary Library will evolve in the future and what it will be providing Members in the decades ahead.

I now formally launch Parliament’s Library – 150 years.

  1. Mr Speaker, Jonathan Hunt, adjournment debate 13 December 2000   [back]
  2. Jill Pettis, NZ Labour – Whanganui, First reading, Social Welfare (Transitional Provisions) Amendment Bill, 25 May 2000   [back]
  3. Hon Richard Prebble, Leader, ACT NZ, Debate on Prime Minister’s Statement, 11 February 2004   [back]